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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi Lee,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thanks for the response.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>As far as I can see, diabetics like me are not found on the Board.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Nor is anybody evidently physically challenged, I see no wheelchairs for example.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Nobody is deaf. No redheads either.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>You most pointedly did not answer my questions, let me try them again.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Who is to be included in the preferred groups? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Here is Lee’s “answer”:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>>The members. Right now they prefer "rich white guys."<br>>I apologize to any Board members who do not identify as "rich," but you *do* have the flexibility to spend time on ARIN rather than on your day job, and you are all senior executives.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>>I also recognize Merike, who is a Board member, and whose presence does not invalidate my point about voting patterns.<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sorry Lee, that is not the answer to my question. The “preferred groups” are the ones for whom a seat is reserved.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>But your answer does beg the question of whether we should include the poor in the preferred groups?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>My question relates to defining who belongs to what groups, after the groups themselves are chosen.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>For example, any group you define really represents a spectrum, and where do we define the edges of that spectrum?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If it’s women, is a personal identification as a woman enough, or do we need blood tests like the Olympics?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If it’s homeland, do you have to be a citizen, or can you have a second-home in your “homeland”?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If it’s experience, who judges whether the experience meets the bar?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If it’s nationality, what about dual-nationals?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Who chooses the preferred groups?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Here is Lee’s “answer”:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>>The members. Right now they prefer "rich white guys."<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Voting members chose the current board, no seats were reserved for them, thus none is in a preferred group.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>But you say the members choose the preferred groups. How do the members choose which groups they prefer? Can we vote on it?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>That’s the 800lb gorilla of my questions, you have not provided an answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> Who verifies inclusion in the groups?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>>I'm making assumptions based on the group photo and bios of the Board on ARIN's site. John used to work for a large ISP, but that was a long time ago, and he is not elected.<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Sorry, Lee, making assumptions based on photos is not verifying inclusion. Is Caitlyn Jenner eligible for the woman’s seat? How long must a candidate live in the Caribbean before that is his homeland? How do we verify if somebody is poor, or is black, or is physically challenged? Whose job is this verification, when does it occur, and to whom can decisions be appealed, under what processes? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Sorry but you did not answer a single one of my questions. Not a one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>And thinking it could be done by any group of people in any short time is unrealistic.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I hope the board has the foresight to look at the myriad of issues which will be inevitably raised by embarking on a road that diverges widely from the path of the responsible stewardship of number resources, and instead chooses to engage in social engineering, tilting at windmills unrelated to registering number resources, and sowing division in the community.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Who among us can decide whether it’s more important that we have a representative from a large ISP or a representative with a vagina? Shouldn’t that be something left to each individual member to decide? Any further steps in this direction removes that ability from the voter and lodges it where? With whom? With the Board which we are assuming is hampered in its own decision-making due to the whiteness, maleness, or Canadian-ness of its members?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Lee Howard [mailto:spiffnolee@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 09, 2017 11:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mike Burns <mike@iptrading.com>; 'William Herrin' <bill@herrin.us>; 'John Springer' <3johnl@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> arin-consult@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ARIN-consult] Reminder: Consultation on Increasing the size of the ARIN Board of Trustees<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145750"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145765"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145764"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145763"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145773"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> Mike Burns <<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com">mike@iptrading.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'William Herrin' <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us">bill@herrin.us</a>>; 'John Springer' <<a href="mailto:3johnl@gmail.com">3johnl@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 9, 2017 10:52 AM<br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145776">Subject:</b> Re: [ARIN-consult] Reminder: Consultation on Increasing the size of the ARIN Board of Trustees</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145762"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv7790912284><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145761"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145760"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145795"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145820"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> ARIN is about number registration, not about defining groups of members and making them “more equal” than other members.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145828"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146254"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://www.arin.net/about_us/bot.html">Board of Trustees</a><br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146267"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="enhancr2_98486602-047a-0e0d-1545-a5174d744ffd"><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=400 style='width:300.0pt'><tr><td width=400 style='width:300.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=400 style='width:300.0pt'><tr style='height:150.0pt'><td valign=top style='background:black;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:150.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><!--[if gte vml 1]><v:rect id="_x0000_s1026" style='position:absolute;margin-left:0;margin-top:0;width:300pt;height:163.5pt;z-index:251657216' fillcolor="black" stroked="f">
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Disproportionately, given the demographics of meeting attendees; the AC is more demographically representative.<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146016"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Large ISPs, content providers, and CDNs are completely unrepresented.<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146015"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Rural and Caribbean ISPs are unrepresented.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146694"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Address market participants are, as far as I can tell, unrepresented.<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146158"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>So, "middle-aged white men who can afford to spend several hours a week and a couple weeks a year not doing a day job" seems to be the primary representation. I would venture to say that that group is not "more equal" than others.<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146014"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146222"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> If the community feels that the viewpoint of a certain gender or homeland or skill set is valuable, it is free to choose <br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146322"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> whomever it wants to meet that need.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146219"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> I don’t know what could be “assured” to be “fairer” than that.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146218"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146325"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>It's called "the tyranny of the majority."</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146417"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Even weirder than that, although I couldn't find a breakdown of members by country, I wonder whether Canada is disproportionately represented: 3 of 6 elected Board Members are Canadian. <br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146608"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>If Americans distribute their votes among candidates but Canadians tend to vote for their clan, you get disproportionate representation. Whereas Caribbean members have a hard time finding someone to nominate (who can spare time from a day job), and may not have enough members that voting en bloc seats a Board member.<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146420"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146736"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> Who chooses what groups are preferred?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146755"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146756"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>The members. Right now they prefer "rich white guys."<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146760"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I apologize to any Board members who do not identify as "rich," but you *do* have the flexibility to spend time on ARIN rather than on your day job, and you are all senior executives.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146877"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I also recognize Merike, who is a Board member, and whose presence does not invalidate my point about voting patterns.<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146841"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146502"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> How are those groups defined?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146771"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146956"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>By the set of people nominated and forwarded by the NomCom. <br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146957"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145804"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> Who verifies inclusion in the groups?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147028"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147080"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I'm making assumptions based on the group photo and bios of the Board on ARIN's site. John used to work for a large ISP, but that was a long time ago, and he is not elected.<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147081"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_145818"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> What prevents the proliferation of defined groups?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_146498"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147096"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I pointed out potential voting patterns above.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147097"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147015"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> Any single one of those questions can only be answered with hours and hours of fraught debate and rulemaking. <br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147100"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> How can the Board make this decision without beforehand clearly answering the questions above?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147392"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147391"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Funny, I did it in ten minutes of writing an email.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147130"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147129"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> Considering that the issues presented to the Board relate *<b>only to the registration of numbers</b>*, and that no <br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147132"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> evidence has been forthcoming that indicates the Board’s decisions have suffered from lack of diversity, what <br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147133"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>> is the scope of the problem that would justify up-ending the principles of multi-stakeholderism?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv7790912284yqtfd05101><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147127"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147136"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Leaving aside the rest of the political issues associated with "Internet governance" (and we shouldn't leave them aside), we have a Board that makes decisions about the AC's consensus judgments, fees, contracts, strategy, and budgets, based at best on information provided by the staff and the community, and not from personal knowledge. An advocate of an position is a better advocate if they have experience with the issue, and weaker if they only have second-hand knowledge.<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147334"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147568"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>So far in this consultation, I have not actually expressed a position to the Board, but writing this convinced me I should:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147539"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I believe the Board does need greater diversity. Reserved seats (AfriNIC-style) might accomplish that. Annual diversity training for the NomCom might help. I don't have other suggestions, but I'm glad the Board is thinking about this.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147610"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147624"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Lee</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147609"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_147335"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>