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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi Lee,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I agree that it is hard to prove a negative, or to say that a less-diverse board is missing an opportunity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>But I think that before we make any moves which might have a negative effect, we should first have some evidence that there is a problem that needs to be addressed. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I hear you saying that we really can’t know now what benefits might accrue from adding diverse voices to the board.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Fair enough, but is that really a problem statement?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>And don’t we already have the capability, as a community, of making the board as diverse as we want?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Maybe there is no problem, but there is a goal?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Even though we may debate the goal, it seems like the discussed solution involves a reduction in the community’s ability to select whom it prefers to sit on the board. And a reduction in the ability of every community member to run for every board seat. So it’s not like this is a solution that should be considered carelessly, as a throwaway. For the first time, it seems to me, the ARIN organization would be differentiating member from member in an official recognition. No more equality of small and big business, government and education, Canadian and Caribbean. What is being considered is anti-democratic and anti-meritocratic on its face, and a quagmire in practice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>There might be unknown benefits from adding diverse voices. Or from eliminating the board. Or doubling its size. Or creating term limits. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>For me, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If it’s broke, show me how it’s broke, and we can work on the fix in the context of number policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Lee Howard [mailto:spiffnolee@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 07, 2017 11:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mike Burns <mike@iptrading.com>; 'David Farmer' <farmer@umn.edu>; 'John Comfort' <john@comfortconsulting.com><br><b>Cc:</b> arin-consult@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ARIN-consult] Reminder: Consultation on Increasing the size of the ARIN Board of Trustees<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26955"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26811"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26946"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>> Can somebody provide an example of a Board decision which would have benefitted from more diversity?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26953"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26954"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I can't. <br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_27058"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>But then, how would we know? There are different network architectures in small island nations than in large networks. Have we done anything that disadvantages those networks? At the Board level, are there differences in accounting, bookkeeping, or legal frameworks that make it hard for those organizations to participate or contribute or grow? <br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_27503"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Or community networks, WISPs, networks serving native populations, or other kinds of networks?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_27504"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_27508"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Another direction of wonder is whether there's a style of debate, or collaboration, or contribution, that is missing, because people from different cultures work together differently. Might a different style of participation add richness (in the form of better-considered decisions) to Board work?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_27509"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_27510"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Without someone at the table, it's hard to know what you might be missing.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_27511"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_27512"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Lee</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_27539"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26878"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26820"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26819"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26818"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26817"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> Mike Burns <<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com">mike@iptrading.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'David Farmer' <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu">farmer@umn.edu</a>>; 'John Comfort' <<a href="mailto:john@comfortconsulting.com">john@comfortconsulting.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 6, 2017 1:01 PM<br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26829">Subject:</b> Re: [ARIN-consult] Reminder: Consultation on Increasing the size of the ARIN Board of Trustees</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26822"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv6582195993><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26825"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26824"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26823"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Hello,</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26831"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Can we talk about the problem this change is designed to address?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26839"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Have there been decisions taken in the past by the ARIN board which could be said to be a result of lack of diversity on the board?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26833"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>For example, has the board corrected a mistake because a prior decision failed to include the input of a small business owner, or a resident of the Caribbean, or a lawyer?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26837"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26836"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Do issues like gender or race even impact the decision-making ability of a board whose job revolves around number policy?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26834"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Or are we to assume that lack of diversity is itself the problem? </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>That even if the non-diverse board and a hypothetical diverse board reached the same conclusions, there is still a problem with the former?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Is this an optics problem? That is, are we addressing not a problem related to number policy, but a self-esteem problem of some community members?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Or are we saying the ARIN board doesn’t understand Caribbean legal issues or network peculiarities, resulting in bad decisions?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26886"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>The second case is much more interesting to me.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>The problems which will inevitably arise out of this effort should be considered, and I haven’t really heard them all addressed.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>First, who decides what groups should be included in the sought-after diversity? We have suggestions for gender and regional membership already.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>What about LBTQ, black, Hispanic, physically-challenged or poor community members?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Can those groups be left out of consideration? What is the process of review and revision of these selections? A free-for-all on the ARIN-consult list? I am not looking forward to the debate over the last reserved seat- does it go to the poor or the Caribbean? What if a gay, poor Caribbean runs for that seat, does he/she check three boxes or only one? Are these appropriate discussions for numbers-stewards? It’s a quagmire.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Second, once the groups are defined, then what is the mechanism to ensure actual membership in the group? How are we sure who is a woman, who is poor, who is physically handicapped, or who is gay? Do we have surplus Election committee members itching to verify this information?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26921"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Third, this would further the implicit assumption that even members of a small group whose aegis extends only to regional number policy vote tribally, and the only solution is to ensure participation of every tribe on the board. I think we should instead be focusing on the open-ness of the stakeholder model, with open and meritocratic elections being a foundational principle.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Fourth, restricting qualified members from running from some board seats due to immutable characteristics like skin color or gender or ethnicity could potentially reduce the overall quality of the board.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Fifth, intra-ARIN tribalism will naturally drive discourse in ways that tend to exacerbate differences so as to justify current diversity preferences, in my opinion, and that includes introducing non-numbers-related issues where we should only care about the numbers.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Sixth, a larger board makes meetings and communications among board members more difficult.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Seventh, quota-seat members could feel (and be perceived as) inferior or junior members.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26909"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>I don’t support any change to the number of seats on the board, and I don’t think the language that existed which allowed for the appointment of an additional member was designed for increasing bland and generic diversity. I think it was put there to address any particular unusual eventuality which required missing expertise. Maybe expertise in large public accounting, or expertise in law enforcement, or in private investigation or legislative compliance. The use of the seat to address a lack of representation of any particular GROUP removes the intended ability of use for a particular EXPERTISE should that be needed.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26910"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26912"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>As it stands today, the community is free to nominate and vote for any member who is qualified. Before that right is removed from the community, can we please understand the severity of the problem?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26913"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496846679863_26914"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Can somebody provide an example of a Board decision which would have benefitted from more diversity?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Regards,</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Mike Burns</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv6582195993yqt11254><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> ARIN-consult [<a href="mailto:arin-consult-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-consult-bounces@arin.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Farmer<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Comfort <<a href="mailto:john@comfortconsulting.com">john@comfortconsulting.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <<a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ARIN-consult] Reminder: Consultation on Increasing the size of the ARIN Board of Trustees</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>I debated using the word "underrepresented", I couldn't find a better word, the english language is lacking, or at least my vocabulary is.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 2:17 PM, John Comfort <<a href="mailto:john@comfortconsulting.com" target="_blank">john@comfortconsulting.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>To state that women are underrepresented because the board currently has no women is a misnomer and only perpetuates the political propaganda without any substantive data to confirm the situation even exists. If a particular woman has the appropriate credentials and experience necessary to become a member of the board, then there is no reason why she wouldn't be elected except that a male or another female candidate has better credentials and/or more relevant experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>The election requirements should be based on merit only. Do not give prejudicial treatment to any person whether male or female to further external, irrelevant agendas.<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:58 AM, David Farmer <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">farmer@umn.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>I agree with Jason and Rob, simply expanding the number of board seats without some mechanism to ensure that the new seats actually expand diversity is not helpful, and I can not support such a change. I will note it is theoretically possible that, the membership will fill the new Board seats with a more diverse set of board members, but it is equally, if not more, likely that they will not, and the board will look much as it does today but slightly larger. A slightly larger board that has more diversity is a fair trade-off and I support such a change if it includes a mechanism to ensure that the new seats actually expand diversity.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>I don't think a regional representation system would be helpful over all, it wouldn't necessarily help increasing the number of women on the board, and it would formalize a constituency for some board members that isn't the whole membership, and I'm not sure that would be a healthy change either.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>As an alternative, I would propose that the board earmark the additional seat in each class for candidates with particular divers properties that are underrepresented on the board. Currently, I see the most pressing lack of diversity being women in general and anyone from the Caribbean. So I would propose that the extra seat for the 1st and 3rd class of broad members be earmarked for women, and the extra seat in the 2nd class be earmarked for someone from the Caribbean. Overtime if the make up of the board changes the earmarks could be changed to select candidates with other divers properties or if in the future it is felt that sufficient diversity can be maintained without earmarks, the earmarks could be eliminated. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Under this proposal, there would be two(2) general seats with the current qualifications, and one special diversity seat per class with the current qualifications plus additional diversity qualifications specified by the board, maybe with input from the community and/or the nomcom.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#888888'><br clear=all></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv6582195993gmail-m7698638463637073985hoenzb><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#888888'>-- </span></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#888888'>===============================================<br>David Farmer <a 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