<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Oct 25, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">On John's slides, it outlines that the vast majority of organizations will have fees reduced, and that the change will be largely revenue neutral to ARIN. So I wouldn't consider this an overall fee reduction, but I do believe it makes the fee structure more fair, and better aligns the self-interest of ARIN members with the various interests of the community.<div>
<br></div></blockquote><br>Put another way, most organizations receive a fee reduction at the expense of the few organizations that can be called "corner cases" by some definition of the term.</div><div><br></div><div>Since I am personally one such organization and also involved in about 5 others (vs. 1 organization I am involved in that benefits), and since the organization that benefits receives a 10% fee reduction (roughly) while the other 6 see a fee increase somewhere between 200 and 5000%, I'm not wild about it.</div><div><br></div><div>Certainly it changes my position on whether organizations should consider signing the LRSA.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Overall, I support the new fee structure.</div><div><br></div><div>-Scott<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Jo Rhett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jrhett@netconsonance.com" target="_blank">jrhett@netconsonance.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">For every situation that I've been involved with over the last few years, both ISPs and end users, this change would appear to reduce the fees paid. Is this the desired effect?<div>
<br></div><div>Note: not a single one of the companies I worked with considered the ARIN registration fees onerous or balked about them. I am not certain that a fee reduction is necessary. I'd rather see ARIN spend the budget on improving the services.<br>
<div><div><div class="h5"><br><div><div>On Oct 25, 2012, at 1:17 PM, ARIN wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite">We are consulting with the community regarding changes to the ARIN Fee<br>Schedule that are scheduled for implementation in January of 2013. The<br>
changes to the fee schedule including an alignment of the IPv4 and IPv6<br>fee schedules for ISPs into single set of registration services plans<br>based on total resources held, introduction of with per address block and<br>
per ASN maintenance fees for end-users, and addition of very low cost<br>category (e.g. XX-Small) for the smallest organizations.<br><br>Please view the proposed fee schedule at:<br><br><a href="https://www.arin.net/fees/proposed_fee_schedule.html" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/fees/proposed_fee_schedule.html</a><br>
<br>In addition, a presentation was given on this proposed fee schedule today,<br>and the slides are available at:<br><br>PDF:<br><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XXX/PDF/thursday/cur" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XXX/PDF/thursday/cur</a><br>
ran_fee_schedule.pdf<br><br>PPTX:<br><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XXX/PPT/thursday/cur" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XXX/PPT/thursday/cur</a><br>
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