<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Sep 6, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Azinger, Marla wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="542271000-07092011"><font size="3">Could the Rationale be detailed more please. Right now this doesn't have enough detail to support the suggestion and it appears more like a curiosity is going to kill the cat request.</font></span></div>
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<div><font size="3">H<span class="542271000-07092011">ere are some thoughts that made me ask for more supporting details:</span></font></div>
<div><span class="542271000-07092011"><font size="3">-I believe the community has decided that everyone has the right to see WHOIS data. Why do they have the right to have transfer details packaged up neatly?
</font></span></div></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div>1.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Since who-was is not yet available, the details are not currently researchable except by non-scalable individual request of the ARIN staff.</div><div>2.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I'm not sure it's a matter of "having the right" to have it packaged up neatly so much as having a right to the data and finding that it would</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>be much easier for ARIN to package it up neatly than to research it independently and since there are members of the community that</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>feel there is value in having the data available and packaged, and since the process of publication can be easily automated by ARIN,</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>that there is little or no reason not to do so.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; WORD-WRAP: break-word; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 14px; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span class="542271000-07092011">
<div><span class="542271000-07092011"></span><span class="542271000-07092011"></span><font size="3">-<span class="542271000-07092011">Tools are only useful if accuracy of analysis are applied and such an analysis would require set measurements and rules. What
is effectiveness? What is designated as a negative consequence? Who votes on these measures and definitions? Who is really appropriate for conducting this analysis (community or AC)?</span></font></div>
<div><font size="3"><span class="542271000-07092011"></span></font> </div></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I'm afraid I cannot understand what you are trying to say here.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; WORD-WRAP: break-word; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 14px; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span class="542271000-07092011">
<div><font size="3"><span class="542271000-07092011">Cheers</span></font></div>
<div><font size="3"><span class="542271000-07092011">Marla</span></font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:arin-consult-bounces@arin.net">arin-consult-bounces@arin.net</a> [mailto:arin-consult-bounces@arin.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Judson Lewis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ARIN-consult] Consultation Publication of Transferred Prefixes<br>
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<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium" class="Apple-style-span">This Consultation is in response to Suggestion Number 2011.31: Publish</span></div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">List of 8.3 Transfers:</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/suggestions/2011-31.html">https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/suggestions/2011-31.html</a>.</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">ARIN is seeking community input regarding whether ARIN should maintain</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">and publish a list of all prefixes transferred under section 8.3 of the</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">NRPM. Please refer to the Number Resource Policy Manual for more</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">information on that policy at</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium"><a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight3">https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight3</a>.</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">This suggestion asks that ARIN maintain and publish a list of all</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">prefixes transferred under section 8.3. The list should identify the</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">original prefix (the block originally held by the transferor) and each</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">subdivided prefix (each partial block derived from that original block)</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">transferred under this policy, and should include the date each prefix</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">was transferred. Additionally, this suggestion has asked that as soon</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">as possible following implementation, ARIN include in this list, all</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">prefixes which have been previously transferred under section 8.3 to</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">date.</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">ARIN would like to feedback regarding the value of providing this</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">informational service to the community as there has been related</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">discussion regarding this topic on mailing lists. ARIN seeks clear</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">direction through community input.</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">Comments regarding this proposed suggestion can be submitted through the</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process, available at:</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/">https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/</a>.</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; FONT-SIZE: medium">Discussion on <a href="mailto:arin-consult@arin.net">arin-consult@arin.net</a> will close on 30 September 2011, at</div>
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