<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Sep 6, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Mike Joseph wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Owen DeLong <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div><div>On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Scott Leibrand wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><span>On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:</span></div>
<div><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><br><div><div>On Sep 6, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Azinger, Marla wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">
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<div><span><font size="3">-I believe the community has decided that everyone has the right to see WHOIS data. Why do they have the right to have transfer details packaged up neatly?
</font></span></div></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div>1.<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Since who-was is not yet available, the details are not currently researchable except by non-scalable individual request of the ARIN staff.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>To explicitly state the inverse, I believe that implementation of a who-was service could also be a good way to meet the need here (depending on implementation details).</div><div><br>
</div><div>-Scott</div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div><div>I think who-was would make it at least possible to research the requested data, but, it would certainly be much less convenient.</div><div><br></div><div>Likely, if this does not succeed and we end up with a who-was service instead, I will research automating the required research and publishing the requested list. It will be much easier for ARIN to do it than for me to reverse-engineer it, but, yes, at least it would be achievable.</div>
<div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Probably not entirely achievable, since you couldn't know for sure whether a transfer happened as a result of 8.2 or 8.3. Given enough (non-automated) research, you might be able to infer it, but even then it's speculative.</div>
<div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I'd be satisfied with a list of all transfers that doesn't specify whether they were accomplished under 8.2 or 8.3, but, would prefer the 8.3 transfers be identifiable.</div><div><br></div><div>I suspect that in most cases, 8.3 transfers will be partial blocks.</div><div>It is not possible to do a partial block transfer under 8.2 (unless the remainder is returned to ARIN).</div><div><br></div><div>As such, I think that most of them could be identified in an automated fashion.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>-MJ</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div></div><font color="#888888"><div>Owen</div>
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