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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Marla,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>The overall goal of this proposed change is to improve all WHOIS
POC data, not just those associated with organizations having direct
relationship with ARIN. Therefore this includes direct
allocation/assignment POCs as well as indirect allocation/assignment POCs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>So, an ISP having all valid POCs will NOT be prevented from
using ARIN Online or updating the database in cases where their downstream
customers have invalid POCs. In the example you cite, assuming ISP Jingle
has valid POCs while still having invalid POCs among<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>the 5 downstream reassignments, ISP Jingle will have all access
to all services through ARIN Online as well the ability to submit database
changes to ARIN. ISP Jingle will not be able to use ARIN Online or
request database updates if it’s own POCs are not all valid. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Granted the likelihood of an indirect allocation/assignment POC
using ARIN Online to maintain data is small, we still wish to provide them the
capability to update their records in cases where their upstream ARIN direct
organization does not. Please note the community<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>requested that we include indirect POCs as part of POC
validation, therefore this is consistent with that policy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Nate Davis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chief Operating Officer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>The American Registry for Internet Numbers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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arin-consult-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-consult-bounces@arin.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Azinger, Marla<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 15, 2010 12:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> arin-consult@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ARIN-consult] Clarification question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
just want to make sure I interpret this correctly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This
is saying that direct allocation or assignment recipients of ARIN will
basically be forced to update/validate the POC info before gaining any new ARIN
resources. Correct?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Its
NOT saying that direct allocation or assignment recipients of ARIN who have
re-assignments or re-allocations recorded in WHOIS with an invalidated or
incorrect POC on a re-assignment or re-allocation visible in WHOIS will
then block the direct ARIN recipient from getting more ARIN
resources? For example if direct recipient "ISP Jingle" has a
/18 from ARIN and 5 of his re-assignments to his customers have invalidated or
incorrect POC info, these 5 customer of ISP Jingle wont block ISP Jingle from
receiving more resources from ARIN will it? This is really only
concerning the POC info on the Direct Recipient of ARIN, correct?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thank
you</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Marla</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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