[ARIN-consult] Consultation on Reallocation Control Features

Rich Greenwood rgreenwood at shastacoe.org
Tue Oct 15 17:37:27 EDT 2024


I tend to agree with a confirmation mechanism.  It doesn't require the
receiver to pre-configure anything, provides notification of the attempt,
allows the receiver to allow or deny, and notifies the sender of success or
failure.  It might be worth adding an option to turn off the notifications
in the event someone figures out how to turn them into spam.
--Rich

On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 2:10 PM Ross Tajvar <ross at tajvar.io> wrote:

> I'd like to reiterate Chris's earlier point that manually confirming each
> reallocation sounds like a better mechanism all around. Easier for users to
> understand, easier to explain, etc. I'm imagining that most orgs which are
> reallocating are probably used to the process, but for orgs receiving
> reallocations, it may be their first time. My experience with IRR has
> taught me that explaining to a customer who is trying to buy a service from
> you that they have to perform a process with which they are unfamiliar is
> difficult and painful.
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 5:02 PM Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Indeed, a larger number than I would have suspected as well. Given that,
>> I’d argue this is worth prioritizing to prevent future abuse.
>>
>> I think another relevant question for the consultation would be: If/when
>> this feature ships, will *you* enable it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>> > On Oct 15, 2024, at 13:57, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 1:42 PM John Sweeting <jsweeting at arin.net>
>> wrote:
>> >> Bill, these would be only those complaints that RSD received and
>> confirmed were suspicious. That is the only way ARIN would have visibility.
>> >
>> > Got it. That's a surprisingly large number. I'm not sure letting folks
>> > lock the barn door afterwards will help much.
>> >
>> > I'm curious: can you share what sort of things the registrants had to
>> > say for themselves when confronted by ARIN? The ones with the
>> > allocation direct from ARIN, not the ones filing a complaint about a
>> > false reallocation?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Bill Herrin
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > William Herrin
>> > bill at herrin.us
>> > https://bill.herrin.us/
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