[ARIN-consult] increasing 2FA take-up

[Owen DeLong]

> On May 25, 2022, at 08:40, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Putting TOTP in 1Password makes login far more convenient than SMS 2FA, and almost as convenient as password-only, even for shared accounts.
> 
> ARIN should probably provide instructions for how to add your TOTP to 1Password (and any other password managers that support that workflow), because it's not a very intuitive enrollment experience.
> 
> We could also make 2FA only mandatory for activities that change resource control (outbound transfers, reassignments, etc.)...

I would support this.

I’m fine if I have to 2FA to do something potentially harmful, but to have to 2FA every time I log in to check the status of a ticket would be less than ideal.

Owen

> 
> -Scott
> 
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 8:21 AM Richard Laager <rlaager at wiktel.com <mailto:rlaager at wiktel.com>> wrote:
> You can put your TOTP in something like 1Password.
> 
> -- 
> Richard
> 
>> On May 25, 2022, at 09:46, Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net <mailto:athompso at athompso.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have not enabled 2FA.
>> 
>> TOTP lies at the unfortunate confluence of vendor misfeatures and organizational policies that render it not durable or resilient in the face of mobile device failure (which seems to happen to me a LOT more often than normal).  Possibly I don't know something about our approved authenticator apps that might solve the problem, but last time I checked, it was a no-go for me.
>> 
>> I've instead opted to use a long, randomly-generated password that I can store in ways that are both secure and durable/resilient.
>> 
>> -Adam
>> 
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>> From: ARIN-consult <arin-consult-bounces at arin.net <mailto:arin-consult-bounces at arin.net>> on behalf of Bram Abramson <bda at bazu.org <mailto:bda at bazu.org>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:26:59 AM
>> To: ARIN-consult <arin-consult at arin.net <mailto:arin-consult at arin.net>>
>> Subject: [ARIN-consult] increasing 2FA take-up
>>  
>> All,
>> 
>> The current consultation is about rendering SMS a 2FA option, then making 2FA mandatory. But it also notes that TOTP 2FA has been available since 2015 with a 3.2 percent take-up.
>> 
>> Optional 2FA is perhaps inevitably doomed to low take-up, but I it’s likely worth documenting any learnings from the implementation thus far, on the way to that 3.2 percent take-up:
>> 
>> Have most folks involved in this discussion already activated 2FA (are we preaching to the converted)? If not — why has it made sense for you not to?
>> 
>> Do we think most of the broader community is aware of the 2FA opportunity — and are there thoughts, UX or otherwise, on why the crushing majority of folks haven’t availed themselves of it?
>> 
>> Thanks, and cheers,
>> 
>> Bram Abramson
>> bda at bazu.org <mailto:bda at bazu.org> / @bramabramson
>> 
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