[ARIN-consult] Consultation on Requiring Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) for ARIN Online Accounts

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Wed May 25 14:30:26 EDT 2022

Gert –

Just curious - on those occasions where you were now on a new device, were you still receiving SMS messages on the same number?

(i.e., if you had been using password and SMS 2FA instead, would you have been equally out of luck?)


John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

> On 25 May 2022, at 2:16 PM, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
> Hi,
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:41:14AM -0400, Ross Tajvar wrote:
>>> I remain unconvinced that inflicting 2FA on me solves a real problem that
>>> actually exists.
>> I'm not sure why you (and others) seem to think 2FA is so incredibly
>> inconvenient. In my experience, it only takes a few extra seconds, or a few
>> extra clicks/taps depending on how it's set up. The added overhead really
>> is very small.
> I'm generally in favour of 2FA.
> But then... last week, RIPE meeting in Berlin, with physical presence
> there.  Tried to log into the RIPE access system, only to discover that
> The Device that has *this particular* 2FA token was left at home.
> A few months before, trying to go to Teams for a customer that required
> "set up 2FA initially" for that account - and then turned it on for
> "must use 2FA once a week".  Yeah, no big deal.  2FA token was on an
> Android device that was decommissioned because "old and half broken",
> and of course, Android-to-Android "new phone!" transfers don't do that.
> Do I have a Yubikey?  Yes, of course.  Do I not use it for all I should?
> Yes, because I carry around enough stuff with me...
> Just anecdotes, and me having not enough foresight?  Of course.
> But 2FA is not "just a few moments and then it won't bother you 
> anymore, ever".
> Gert Doering
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