[ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Single Transferrable Voting for ARIN Elections

Azinger, Marla Marla.Azinger at FTR.com
Mon Jan 10 14:53:29 EST 2022

All of this is gaming no matter how you slice it.

Silly me. I looked at the title and thought efforts were under way to stop one person from casting votes for companies they don’t actually work for but I didn’t read that in the write up.  I would have thought we’d start there… if anything needs modification…

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From: ARIN-consult <arin-consult-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of Andrew Dul
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Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Single Transferrable Voting for ARIN Elections

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Perhaps a simple question, but "how" will the current board insure that future board(s) do not capriciously change the election mechanisms in the future?

Making the changes to the "election process" subject to a majority vote of the membership and having that right inserted into the bylaws might be one method...


On 1/7/2022 10:31 AM, Peter Harrison wrote:

As stated before, it is the Board's fiduciary responsibility to ensure that a change of this magnitude is equitable and not vulnerable to capricious change. We will act appropriately based on this feedback.


On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 10:03 AM Adam Thompson <athompson at merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson at merlin.mb.ca>> wrote:
Peter, I don’t have a problem with STV.  I do have a problem with the board having the latitude – unfettered – to keep changing voting systems without further bylaw amendments.  The type of voting structure, particularly when deviating from the norm that’s baked into Virginia law, should then be baked into the bylaws so that it can’t change in the middle of the night, perhaps even during an election.

Do I trust the current board to not pull stuff like that?  Yeah, probably, I think...  (In fact, can I even name the current board members?  No.  But that’s a different problem.)  Am I willing to blindly trust every future board that might exist?  Absolutely not.  I’ve seen how boards can be co-opted, infiltrated, and/or “turned to the dark side” (so to speak) elsewhere.

As far as the consultation’s goal to determine whether STV is OK or not?  Yes, it is good.  This is an excellent move overall.


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From: ARIN-consult <arin-consult-bounces at arin.net<mailto:arin-consult-bounces at arin.net>> On Behalf Of Peter Harrison
Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 11:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Single Transferrable Voting for ARIN Elections

Dear Community,

With STV there are many ways to re-allocate votes, and new ones may be invented. The videos presented previously illustrated one method.

This link explains some of the options: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting#Comparison_of_ranked_voting_methods<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting*Comparison_of_ranked_voting_methods__;Iw!!M2UytebrhrTR!ZZ9nY7Iqm8q8pZkxsQXDwXKKBYnBxxrhgUQsk72I0lQSknZQozPO16VzGa2rUE66$>

We will need to balance the range of options with those provided by current and future vendors of ARIN’s voting systems. Investigations are being made by staff and they will make recommendations to the board based on their research into our needs, best practices, practicability, relative merit, legal implications and systems availability.

The purpose of the consultation is to get a sense of whether this is a good idea overall. The board will work hard to ensure that we are working in the best interest of the members and the region they serve when evaluating the choices presented.

As John explained, the bylaw modification was made to accommodate multiple forms of voting that may be required in future. The concern that this could lead to opportunistic changes to systems each election cycle is sound. We will investigate ways to ensure this does not happen with possible bylaw wording to meet these and other goals.

The Governance Working Group has worked very closely with both the executive team and staff on this consultation. Their support for a workable solution and concern for the membership has been evident every step of the way. These consultations are the result of over two years of research and were not taken lightly. We will continue to work to maintain this excellent collaboration.

Thank you for your feedback.




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