[ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Single Transferrable Voting for ARIN Elections

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Fri Jan 7 14:07:54 EST 2022


I want to propose an alternative:

Instead of making any bylaws change at this time, collect the votes
for the next few ARIN elections in ranked-choice format but continue
to use them as FPTP. That is, ask folks to rank their choices but then
simply use the first ones in the list with the current FPTP math.

Following each election, do a data dump of the votes cast and an
analysis to see how the election -would have- turned out had STV been
used. Then, bring the question back to consultation having acquired
hard data demonstrating how the proposed system would have performed
in our environment.

I assume merely collecting ranked choices does not violate Virginia law?

Regards,
Bill Herrin


On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 10:33 AM William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 9:51 AM Peter Harrison <peter at colovore.com> wrote:
> > It is possible to create many scenarios that test the limits of STV and FPTP systems. I encourage you to consider their likelihood in our situation and discount them accordingly. Please remember the overall goal of creating greater equity using a globally deployed system designed by psephology thought leaders.
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> As an engineer, I earn a living making systems resistant to Murphy's
> Law. When I see a voting system like STV which allows for the election
> of the candidate most opposed by a clear majority of voters, alarm
> bells ring. It's an obviously incorrect outcome that shouldn't be
> possible.
>
> That STV -also- allows for the defeat of the 1st choice candidate most
> desired by a plurality of voters is an additional concern. Without a
> majority I can see an argument that support for the candidate was
> broad but shallow. Still, when considered in context with the
> obviously incorrect result above, I worry the math hides more error.
>
> So, I'm tentatively against STV voting.
>
> But then I'm an engineer, not a psephology thought leader.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
> --
> William Herrin
> bill at herrin.us
> https://bill.herrin.us/



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