From info at arin.net  Wed Dec  1 10:41:05 2021
From: info at arin.net (ARIN)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 10:41:05 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] =?utf-8?q?ACSP_Consultation_2021=2E5_=E2=80=94_Co?=
 =?utf-8?q?nsultation_on_ARIN=27s_Membership_Structure_is_Now_Closed?=
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ARIN thanks those who provided valuable feedback during this consultation on changes to the ARIN Membership structure. This important feedback will be provided to the Board for their consideration.

Regards,

American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)





From info at arin.net  Wed Dec  1 12:53:02 2021
From: info at arin.net (ARIN)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 12:53:02 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
Message-ID: <7CD717E6-399A-47EC-8457-2AF7C6A72C32@arin.net>

The Board of Trustees maintains authority over the scope, mission, and along with the President and Chief Executive Officer establishes ARIN?s strategic direction and fiscal oversight. The Board also has oversight authority of the nomination, appointment, and election of individuals to Board committees and similar roles.

Over the past two years, as part of its fiduciary duties, the ARIN Board of Trustees (?Board?) has undertaken a review of ARIN?s governance structures, including the imposition of term limits on the Board. As part of this effort, an independent, outside consultant was engaged to review ARIN?s governance structures and provide recommendations.

One recommendation that has arisen from this governance review is to impose term limits on the Board for several reasons. Term limits would provide the ability for the community to realize the following benefits:

1. Balance of continuity with healthy turnover;
2. Support ongoing opportunity to expand and enhance the Board?s membership;
3. Greater introduction of differing views and fresh perspectives amongst the Board;
4. Periodic renewed look at structures and governance; and
5. More opportunities for participation by members of the community.

Board Proposal

ARIN will impose term limits on the elected seats of the Board.

The term limits will permit elected Board members to serve three consecutive 3-year terms before requiring a two-year period during which such Board members are ineligible to serve on the Board.

Current Board members may serve out the remainder of their current term, and the term limits will be imposed upon any subsequent re-election to the Board. Any current Board member would therefore be eligible to serve three additional terms upon re-election, to ensure continuity, orderly succession, and prevent precipitous loss of corporate memory.

ARIN seeks community feedback on this proposed imposition of term limits on the Board. This consultation will remain open for 15 days.

Please provide comments to arin-consult at arin.net. You can subscribe to this mailing list at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult.

Discussion on arin-consult at arin.net will close on 15 December 2021.




From scottleibrand at gmail.com  Wed Dec  1 13:51:44 2021
From: scottleibrand at gmail.com (Scott Leibrand)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 10:51:44 -0800
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
In-Reply-To: <7CD717E6-399A-47EC-8457-2AF7C6A72C32@arin.net>
References: <7CD717E6-399A-47EC-8457-2AF7C6A72C32@arin.net>
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On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 9:53 AM ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:

>
> Board Proposal
>
> ARIN will impose term limits on the elected seats of the Board.
>

I'm ambivalent as to whether term limits are a good idea overall.

>
> The term limits will permit elected Board members to serve three
> consecutive 3-year terms before requiring a two-year period during which
> such Board members are ineligible to serve on the Board.
>

If you're going to do term limits, this seems like a reasonable limit.


> Current Board members may serve out the remainder of their current term,
> and the term limits will be imposed upon any subsequent re-election to the
> Board. Any current Board member would therefore be eligible to serve three
> additional terms upon re-election, to ensure continuity, orderly
> succession, and prevent precipitous loss of corporate memory.
>

This means that the proposal is completely irrelevant for the next 9 years,
right? If anyone thinks they have any idea what ARIN's governance needs
will be in 2030, I admire but do not share your confidence.

As best I can tell, this proposal is a no-op over the near- and medium-term
(this decade), and would be subject to change at any time before it goes
into effect. If you want to make the smallest change possible on this
topic, this seems like a good contender for that. As such, I don't have any
objection to doing so, but don't expect to see any strong support for it
either.

-Scott
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From john at comfortconsulting.com  Wed Dec  1 13:51:54 2021
From: john at comfortconsulting.com (John Comfort)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 10:51:54 -0800
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
In-Reply-To: <7CD717E6-399A-47EC-8457-2AF7C6A72C32@arin.net>
References: <7CD717E6-399A-47EC-8457-2AF7C6A72C32@arin.net>
Message-ID: <CALFvOQOSb81=ahjScv6BZ6ad3HpMyAzJEx6dr0Ze-izCHdUtgw@mail.gmail.com>

Is this merely a rehash of the "Consultation on Increasing the size of the
ARIN Board of Trustees" discussion on implementing politicized "Diversity"?

Is the Board unanimous on this issue? If not, what are the dissenting
opinions?

Who is the independent consultant/consulting agency ARIN hired for this
endeavor?  What were their objectives specifically?



On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 9:53 AM ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:

> The Board of Trustees maintains authority over the scope, mission, and
> along with the President and Chief Executive Officer establishes ARIN?s
> strategic direction and fiscal oversight. The Board also has oversight
> authority of the nomination, appointment, and election of individuals to
> Board committees and similar roles.
>
> Over the past two years, as part of its fiduciary duties, the ARIN Board
> of Trustees (?Board?) has undertaken a review of ARIN?s governance
> structures, including the imposition of term limits on the Board. As part
> of this effort, an independent, outside consultant was engaged to review
> ARIN?s governance structures and provide recommendations.
>
> One recommendation that has arisen from this governance review is to
> impose term limits on the Board for several reasons. Term limits would
> provide the ability for the community to realize the following benefits:
>
> 1. Balance of continuity with healthy turnover;
> 2. Support ongoing opportunity to expand and enhance the Board?s
> membership;
> 3. Greater introduction of differing views and fresh perspectives amongst
> the Board;
> 4. Periodic renewed look at structures and governance; and
> 5. More opportunities for participation by members of the community.
>
> Board Proposal
>
> ARIN will impose term limits on the elected seats of the Board.
>
> The term limits will permit elected Board members to serve three
> consecutive 3-year terms before requiring a two-year period during which
> such Board members are ineligible to serve on the Board.
>
> Current Board members may serve out the remainder of their current term,
> and the term limits will be imposed upon any subsequent re-election to the
> Board. Any current Board member would therefore be eligible to serve three
> additional terms upon re-election, to ensure continuity, orderly
> succession, and prevent precipitous loss of corporate memory.
>
> ARIN seeks community feedback on this proposed imposition of term limits
> on the Board. This consultation will remain open for 15 days.
>
> Please provide comments to arin-consult at arin.net. You can subscribe to
> this mailing list at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult.
>
> Discussion on arin-consult at arin.net will close on 15 December 2021.
>
>
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From info at arin.net  Wed Dec  1 16:30:24 2021
From: info at arin.net (ARIN)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 16:30:24 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] FW: Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
In-Reply-To: <C59AFC44-D58B-4EDF-B567-238BDD0FF84D@semihuman.com>
References: <7CD717E6-399A-47EC-8457-2AF7C6A72C32@arin.net>
 <mailman.3207.1638384726.22078.arin-consult@arin.net>
 <C59AFC44-D58B-4EDF-B567-238BDD0FF84D@semihuman.com>
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Returning misdirected mail to the discussion thread.

 

From: Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 1:58 PM
To: John Comfort <john at comfortconsulting.com>
Cc: ARIN <info at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees

 

I?m curious on your thoughts as to why efforts to create a more diverse governorship body for ARIN is a bad thing for ARIN and/or the community. Care to explain how this would negatively impact the community?

 

Thanks,

 

-Chris



On Dec 1, 2021, at 10:51 AM, John Comfort via ARIN-consult <arin-consult at arin.net> wrote:

 

 

From: John Comfort <john at comfortconsulting.com>

Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees

Date: December 1, 2021 at 10:51:54 AM PST

To: ARIN <info at arin.net>

Cc: "arin-consult at arin.net" <arin-consult at arin.net>

 

Is this merely a rehash of the "Consultation on Increasing the size of the ARIN Board of Trustees" discussion on implementing politicized "Diversity"?

 

Is the Board unanimous on this issue? If not, what are the dissenting opinions?

 

Who is the independent consultant/consulting agency ARIN hired for this endeavor?  What were their objectives specifically?

 

 

 

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 9:53 AM ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:

The Board of Trustees maintains authority over the scope, mission, and along with the President and Chief Executive Officer establishes ARIN?s strategic direction and fiscal oversight. The Board also has oversight authority of the nomination, appointment, and election of individuals to Board committees and similar roles.

Over the past two years, as part of its fiduciary duties, the ARIN Board of Trustees (?Board?) has undertaken a review of ARIN?s governance structures, including the imposition of term limits on the Board. As part of this effort, an independent, outside consultant was engaged to review ARIN?s governance structures and provide recommendations.

One recommendation that has arisen from this governance review is to impose term limits on the Board for several reasons. Term limits would provide the ability for the community to realize the following benefits:

1. Balance of continuity with healthy turnover;
2. Support ongoing opportunity to expand and enhance the Board?s membership;
3. Greater introduction of differing views and fresh perspectives amongst the Board;
4. Periodic renewed look at structures and governance; and
5. More opportunities for participation by members of the community.

Board Proposal

ARIN will impose term limits on the elected seats of the Board.

The term limits will permit elected Board members to serve three consecutive 3-year terms before requiring a two-year period during which such Board members are ineligible to serve on the Board.

Current Board members may serve out the remainder of their current term, and the term limits will be imposed upon any subsequent re-election to the Board. Any current Board member would therefore be eligible to serve three additional terms upon re-election, to ensure continuity, orderly succession, and prevent precipitous loss of corporate memory.

ARIN seeks community feedback on this proposed imposition of term limits on the Board. This consultation will remain open for 15 days.

Please provide comments to arin-consult at arin.net. You can subscribe to this mailing list at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult.

Discussion on arin-consult at arin.net will close on 15 December 2021.


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From info at arin.net  Wed Dec  1 16:31:58 2021
From: info at arin.net (ARIN)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 16:31:58 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] FW: Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
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References: <7CD717E6-399A-47EC-8457-2AF7C6A72C32@arin.net>
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Returning misdirected mail to the discussion thread.

 

 

From: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 2:10 PM
To: John Comfort <john at comfortconsulting.com>
Cc: ARIN <info at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees

 

On 1 Dec 2021, at 1:51 PM, John Comfort via ARIN-consult <arin-consult at arin.net> wrote:

 

From: John Comfort <john at comfortconsulting.com>

Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees

Date: 1 December 2021 at 1:51:54 PM EST

To: ARIN <info at arin.net>

Cc: "arin-consult at arin.net" <arin-consult at arin.net>

 

Is this merely a rehash of the "Consultation on Increasing the size of the ARIN Board of Trustees" discussion on implementing politicized "Diversity"?

 

Is the Board unanimous on this issue? If not, what are the dissenting opinions?

 

Who is the independent consultant/consulting agency ARIN hired for this endeavor?  What were their objectives specifically?

 

John -

The consultation that is now underway is specifically regarding the implementation of Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees. At present, the Board has reviewed the proposal to add term limits and approved having a consultation with the community oil this topic so as to gather community input ? as this will help inform the Board of Trustees with their future consideration of the proposed change and potential adoption. 

 

The firm hired to conduct the overall ARIN governance review was Baker Tilly and the review centered on best practices in not-for-profit governance and ARIN?s existing practices.  Baker Tilly was selected as a result of a competitive process whereby ARIN issued an RFP and five responses were received that were deemed competitive and of high quality (as noted in the Board minutes for 29 July 2020 https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/board/meetings/2020_0729/)

 

I hope this information help in your consideration of the proposed change to implement Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees.  If you have specific views that you can share in support or in opposition of the proposed change to add term limits as detailed in the consultation, that would be most excellent.

 

Thanks!

/John

 

John Curran

President and CEO

American Registry for Internet Numbers

 

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From info at arin.net  Wed Dec  1 16:32:54 2021
From: info at arin.net (ARIN)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 16:32:54 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] FW: Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
In-Reply-To: <F1002F2E-43E8-457D-8DE9-A2027DEA277D@comfortconsulting.com>
References: <7CD717E6-399A-47EC-8457-2AF7C6A72C32@arin.net>
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Message-ID: <95C2D2AA-BC9A-4FF0-B97D-3AA5388B4966@arin.net>

Returning misdirected mail to the discussion thread.

 

 

From: John Comfort <john at comfortconsulting.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 2:38 PM
To: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
Cc: ARIN <info at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees

 

Thank you Mr Curran.  Mr Woodfield, the issue is that politicized Diversity makes paramount the color of skin, sex and sexual orientation, etc. to determine who is appointed.  I am advocating that it ought to be only merit, experience and ability that determine eligibility of candidates.  I'd hate to see yet another decent American institution fall down to politics.

 

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 11:10 AM John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:

On 1 Dec 2021, at 1:51 PM, John Comfort via ARIN-consult <arin-consult at arin.net> wrote:

 

From: John Comfort <john at comfortconsulting.com>

Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees

Date: 1 December 2021 at 1:51:54 PM EST

To: ARIN <info at arin.net>

Cc: "arin-consult at arin.net" <arin-consult at arin.net>

 

Is this merely a rehash of the "Consultation on Increasing the size of the ARIN Board of Trustees" discussion on implementing politicized "Diversity"?

 

Is the Board unanimous on this issue? If not, what are the dissenting opinions?

 

Who is the independent consultant/consulting agency ARIN hired for this endeavor?  What were their objectives specifically?

 

John -

The consultation that is now underway is specifically regarding the implementation of Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees. At present, the Board has reviewed the proposal to add term limits and approved having a consultation with the community oil this topic so as to gather community input ? as this will help inform the Board of Trustees with their future consideration of the proposed change and potential adoption. 

 

The firm hired to conduct the overall ARIN governance review was Baker Tilly and the review centered on best practices in not-for-profit governance and ARIN?s existing practices.  Baker Tilly was selected as a result of a competitive process whereby ARIN issued an RFP and five responses were received that were deemed competitive and of high quality (as noted in the Board minutes for 29 July 2020 https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/board/meetings/2020_0729/)

 

I hope this information help in your consideration of the proposed change to implement Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees.  If you have specific views that you can share in support or in opposition of the proposed change to add term limits as detailed in the consultation, that would be most excellent.

 

Thanks!

/John

 

John Curran

President and CEO

American Registry for Internet Numbers

 

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From bill at herrin.us  Wed Dec  1 20:17:37 2021
From: bill at herrin.us (William Herrin)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 17:17:37 -0800
Subject: [ARIN-consult] FW: Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for
 the ARIN Board of Trustees
In-Reply-To: <7AB687BB-9912-4F28-9D6B-C2798C602384@arin.net>
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> From: Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com>
>
> I?m curious on your thoughts as to why efforts to create a more
> diverse governorship body for ARIN is a bad thing for ARIN
> and/or the community. Care to explain how this would negatively
> impact the community?

Hi Chris,

The way I see it, the board's most critical role is to keep ARIN
on-mission. To serve that mission I want to see people who are first
and foremost network engineers, experts at routing and IP address
management.

While there is a degree of diversity within that specialization, I
would not want to see those folks' vote diluted by individuals whose
core competency was, for example, finance. Nor would I want to select
less than the best possible individuals for the sake of catering to
localities, genders, etc. That could only distract from ARIN's core
mission to be one of the authoritative registries of IP addresses in
use on the Internet.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


-- 
William Herrin
bill at herrin.us
https://bill.herrin.us/


From athompso at athompso.net  Wed Dec  1 20:24:22 2021
From: athompso at athompso.net (Adam Thompson)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 01:24:22 +0000
Subject: [ARIN-consult] FW: Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for
 the ARIN Board of Trustees
In-Reply-To: <CAP-guGV7Gc+8wZEosqNbqEVfFynwP9+js+df90GKtELVB5se1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7CD717E6-399A-47EC-8457-2AF7C6A72C32@arin.net>
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Message-ID: <YT2PR01MB462261E137E2C1ADF54C93F9AB699@YT2PR01MB4622.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Bill, my understanding (well, more along the lines of "received knowledge", tbh) is that the current board does include some people with technical knowledge connected to the internet, but zero or nearly-zero persons with (recent) operational experience in operating a network.  I have not personally verified this information - no insult is intended here!

If that is indeed the case, then diversifying the board would imply getting a network operator ONTO the board.

FWIW, my preference would be to put language somewhere along the lines of "...the nomination committee shall, wherever and whenever feasible, ensure a minimum of one (1) person(s) with recent network operational experience stands for election every time".  (That's not well-worded, but it I think it sorta captures what I mean.)

-Adam Thompson


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Cc: <arin-consult at arin.net> <arin-consult at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] FW: Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees

> From: Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com>
>
> I?m curious on your thoughts as to why efforts to create a more 
> diverse governorship body for ARIN is a bad thing for ARIN and/or the 
> community. Care to explain how this would negatively impact the 
> community?

Hi Chris,

The way I see it, the board's most critical role is to keep ARIN on-mission. To serve that mission I want to see people who are first and foremost network engineers, experts at routing and IP address management.

While there is a degree of diversity within that specialization, I would not want to see those folks' vote diluted by individuals whose core competency was, for example, finance. Nor would I want to select less than the best possible individuals for the sake of catering to localities, genders, etc. That could only distract from ARIN's core mission to be one of the authoritative registries of IP addresses in use on the Internet.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


--
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bill at herrin.us
https://bill.herrin.us/
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From bill at herrin.us  Wed Dec  1 21:10:19 2021
From: bill at herrin.us (William Herrin)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 18:10:19 -0800
Subject: [ARIN-consult] FW: Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for
 the ARIN Board of Trustees
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On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 5:24 PM Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net> wrote:
> Bill, my understanding (well, more along the lines of "received knowledge", tbh) is that the current board does include some people with technical knowledge connected to the internet, but zero or nearly-zero persons with (recent) operational experience in operating a network.  I have not personally verified this information - no insult is intended here!

Hi Adam,

I don't think board members need to be active network engineers. I'm
not currently myself but I've built plenty of relevant domain
experience over the years. I do think board members should have spent
some time in their lives living and breathing IP addresses in a
technical role.

I should mention that I haven't made up my mind on term limits. I'm
just responding to the diversity question.

I would suggest, however, that there's one board member whose term is
not readily limited: John Curran. Limiting the rest of the board would
tend to shift more governance power towards the ARIN President and
CEO.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


--
William Herrin
bill at herrin.us
https://bill.herrin.us/


From owen at delong.com  Thu Dec  2 14:31:43 2021
From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:31:43 -0800
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
In-Reply-To: <7CD717E6-399A-47EC-8457-2AF7C6A72C32@arin.net>
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I oppose term limits in general.

In my opinion, they deprive voters of choice. Good governance is the product of an informed and involved electorate.

We should be seeking ways to generate that rather than looking to prevent members from re-electing board members they feel are doing a good job.

Owen


> On Dec 1, 2021, at 09:53 , ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> 
> The Board of Trustees maintains authority over the scope, mission, and along with the President and Chief Executive Officer establishes ARIN?s strategic direction and fiscal oversight. The Board also has oversight authority of the nomination, appointment, and election of individuals to Board committees and similar roles.
> 
> Over the past two years, as part of its fiduciary duties, the ARIN Board of Trustees (?Board?) has undertaken a review of ARIN?s governance structures, including the imposition of term limits on the Board. As part of this effort, an independent, outside consultant was engaged to review ARIN?s governance structures and provide recommendations.
> 
> One recommendation that has arisen from this governance review is to impose term limits on the Board for several reasons. Term limits would provide the ability for the community to realize the following benefits:
> 
> 1. Balance of continuity with healthy turnover;
> 2. Support ongoing opportunity to expand and enhance the Board?s membership;
> 3. Greater introduction of differing views and fresh perspectives amongst the Board;
> 4. Periodic renewed look at structures and governance; and
> 5. More opportunities for participation by members of the community.
> 
> Board Proposal
> 
> ARIN will impose term limits on the elected seats of the Board.
> 
> The term limits will permit elected Board members to serve three consecutive 3-year terms before requiring a two-year period during which such Board members are ineligible to serve on the Board.
> 
> Current Board members may serve out the remainder of their current term, and the term limits will be imposed upon any subsequent re-election to the Board. Any current Board member would therefore be eligible to serve three additional terms upon re-election, to ensure continuity, orderly succession, and prevent precipitous loss of corporate memory.
> 
> ARIN seeks community feedback on this proposed imposition of term limits on the Board. This consultation will remain open for 15 days.
> 
> Please provide comments to arin-consult at arin.net. You can subscribe to this mailing list at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult.
> 
> Discussion on arin-consult at arin.net will close on 15 December 2021.
> 
> 
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From paul at arin.net  Thu Dec  2 14:51:25 2021
From: paul at arin.net (Paul Andersen - ARIN)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 14:51:25 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
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Adam,

> Bill, my understanding (well, more along the lines of "received knowledge", tbh) is that the current board does include some people with technical knowledge connected to the internet, but zero or nearly-zero persons with (recent) operational experience in operating a network.  I have not personally verified this information - no insult is intended here!

Without knowing if there are any qualifiers on that (size of network, level of expertise, hands on plant or logical, etc) I would say generally that is not accurate. Multiple members of the Board have had or still actively are in the operational field. And certainly others are employed directly by organizations in the operator environment in various areas (DC, R&D and Cloud) several which run very large scale networks. 

> If that is indeed the case, then diversifying the board would imply getting a network operator ONTO the board.
> 
> FWIW, my preference would be to put language somewhere along the lines of "...the nomination committee shall, wherever and whenever feasible, ensure a minimum of one (1) person(s) with recent network operational experience stands for election every time".  (That's not well-worded, but it I think it sorta captures what I mean.)

I think that is a great discussion to have. I?d point out the Board has for a few years maintained two documents that speak to the skillsets desired (both a letter to the Nomination Committee and a Expected Qualifications and Responsibilities). Input on these is welcome.

As a departing Board member this year I would personally say that the questions facing us in recent memory do not require an individual to have deep skills in networking. Certainly an ability to understand the technologies and how they interact with one another and the risks and challenges faced by operators and ARIN. 

There is a consultation on NomCom coming soon so this would be great input to such.

Cheers,

Paul

From rs at seastrom.com  Thu Dec  2 15:06:18 2021
From: rs at seastrom.com (Rob Seastrom)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 15:06:18 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
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> On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Paul Andersen - ARIN <paul at arin.net> wrote:
> 
> There is a consultation on NomCom coming soon so this would be great input to such.

Do you know offhand if the scope of that consultation includes the petition process and thresholds?

I'd like to have that discussion.  A few weeks ago JC said that it was not appropriate to have that discussion while an election was underway, and besides it was out of scope for the consultation which was currently at hand (both points which I agree with wholeheartedly).

Thank you,

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From mike at iptrading.com  Thu Dec  2 15:16:53 2021
From: mike at iptrading.com (Mike Burns)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 15:16:53 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
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In addition to the scope of the NomCom discussion, can we know when "soon"
is?

 

Regards,

Mike

 

 

From: ARIN-consult <arin-consult-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of Rob Seastrom
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2021 3:06 PM
To: Paul Andersen - ARIN <paul at arin.net>
Cc: <arin-consult at arin.net> <arin-consult at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
ARIN Board of Trustees

 

 





On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Paul Andersen - ARIN <paul at arin.net
<mailto:paul at arin.net> > wrote:

 

There is a consultation on NomCom coming soon so this would be great input
to such.

 

Do you know offhand if the scope of that consultation includes the petition
process and thresholds?

 

I'd like to have that discussion.  A few weeks ago JC said that it was not
appropriate to have that discussion while an election was underway, and
besides it was out of scope for the consultation which was currently at hand
(both points which I agree with wholeheartedly).

 

Thank you,

 

-r

 

 

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From andrew.dul at quark.net  Thu Dec  2 15:36:30 2021
From: andrew.dul at quark.net (Andrew Dul)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 12:36:30 -0800
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
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Reviewing the historical seated time of past terms on the ARIN board seats.

Since January-2000, there have been 18 elected individuals who have 
filled 19 different seated-terms on the ARIN board (one individual has 
served 2 non-consecutive seated-terms).

By my calculations (including current seated members through December 
2021) I find the following details about seated time in years.

Average 	6.18
Median 	6
Minimum 	2
Maximum 	15


Using the proposed plan below of maximum seated time of 9 years, 3 
individuals would have been termed-out and restricted from running in 
the past.

!

Based upon the data above it appears that in general there has been 
routine rotation of the ARIN board without term limits being imposed.

Having said that a term-limit of 12-years would seem to be in general a 
good practice to provide some predictable rotation over the years, a 
12-year limit would have only termed out one previous serving 
individual.?? If the ARIN board was to expand the number of seats as has 
been proposed at various points in times past, I would think that 
term-limits might become a more important part of ensuring that some 
rotation does occur with regular frequency.

If this board believes that it is valuable to impose term-limits, then 
it should be willing to impose those limits on themselves, not just 
future board seats.

While I understand the desire to not quickly term out after this 
practice is applied, if the board adopted this policy in 2022 and 
applied the limit of 9 consecutive years including past time served, 
only 1 member of the 2022 board would be facing a restriction of being 
termed out when their current term expired.? If the board imposed a 
12-year limit, all 2022 members would be permitted at least one 
additional 3-year term.

Hope this helps,
Andrew



On 12/1/2021 9:53 AM, ARIN wrote:
> The Board of Trustees maintains authority over the scope, mission, and along with the President and Chief Executive Officer establishes ARIN?s strategic direction and fiscal oversight. The Board also has oversight authority of the nomination, appointment, and election of individuals to Board committees and similar roles.
>
> Over the past two years, as part of its fiduciary duties, the ARIN Board of Trustees (?Board?) has undertaken a review of ARIN?s governance structures, including the imposition of term limits on the Board. As part of this effort, an independent, outside consultant was engaged to review ARIN?s governance structures and provide recommendations.
>
> One recommendation that has arisen from this governance review is to impose term limits on the Board for several reasons. Term limits would provide the ability for the community to realize the following benefits:
>
> 1. Balance of continuity with healthy turnover;
> 2. Support ongoing opportunity to expand and enhance the Board?s membership;
> 3. Greater introduction of differing views and fresh perspectives amongst the Board;
> 4. Periodic renewed look at structures and governance; and
> 5. More opportunities for participation by members of the community.
>
> Board Proposal
>
> ARIN will impose term limits on the elected seats of the Board.
>
> The term limits will permit elected Board members to serve three consecutive 3-year terms before requiring a two-year period during which such Board members are ineligible to serve on the Board.
>
> Current Board members may serve out the remainder of their current term, and the term limits will be imposed upon any subsequent re-election to the Board. Any current Board member would therefore be eligible to serve three additional terms upon re-election, to ensure continuity, orderly succession, and prevent precipitous loss of corporate memory.
>
> ARIN seeks community feedback on this proposed imposition of term limits on the Board. This consultation will remain open for 15 days.
>
> Please provide comments toarin-consult at arin.net. You can subscribe to this mailing list at:http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult.
>
> Discussion onarin-consult at arin.net  will close on 15 December 2021.
>
>
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From jcurran at arin.net  Thu Dec  2 16:00:15 2021
From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 21:00:15 +0000
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
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On 2 Dec 2021, at 3:16 PM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com<mailto:mike at iptrading.com>> wrote:

In addition to the scope of the NomCom discussion, can we know when ?soon? is?

Mike -

As noted in the attached message about this consultation series, there is a short list of topics that are being finalized for consideration by the Board for possible consultation with the community to improve ARIN?s governance. I asked the Board that these consultations not be done en masse due to the difficultly on maintaining reasonable engagement on many concurrent threads.

We are presently conducting the community consultation on the merits of adding term limits to the ARIN Board of Trustees, and this consultation runs 15 days.  Upon its completion, we will be approach year-end and are likely to pause briefly until after the holidays/new year and then resume in early January with the others.  (Also note - it?s a tad premature to discuss the specific scope of future consultations until the Board has reviewed and finalized such.)

I hope this helps inform folks on the process - with that information, do you have any views in support or opposition on the topic of term limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees?

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

Begin forwarded message:

From: ARIN <info at arin.net<mailto:info at arin.net>>
Subject: [arin-announce] ARIN Governance Working Group Consultation Series
Date: 1 December 2021 at 12:47:08 PM EST
To: arin-announce <arin-announce at arin.net<mailto:arin-announce at arin.net>>

ARIN?s Board of Trustees established a Governance Working Group (GWG) in January 2020 to assess the structure and operation of ARIN?s Board. To complete this work, the GWG will be presenting a series of four consultations, with the first one starting today at https://www.arin.net/participate/community/acsp/#consultations, to gather community input on proposed improvements to ARIN governance.

An article about the formation and work of the GWG is available on the ARIN Blog at https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/12/01/get-to-know-the-gwg/ to provide background on the work that led to this series of recommendations. Each of these consultations will be held over a period of two business weeks and the resulting feedback will be factored into implementation of any subsequent changes to ARIN?s Bylaws.

The topics of the four consultations are as follows:

* Term Limits for the Board of Trustees ? Proposing to impose term limits to balance continuity with healthy turnover, introduce differing views and fresh perspectives, and increase opportunities for participation on the Board.
* Changing the ARIN Election Process from ?First to the Post? Voting to a ?Single Transferable Vote? Balloting Process ? Proposing a new balloting process to provide greater voting choice and allow ranking candidates in order of preference to achieve more proportional election results with no wasted votes.
* Improvements to the Nomination Committee Process and Procedure ? Proposing changes that will support greater Board independence, transparency, and impartiality.
* Increasing the Board Size ? We recognize that this has been discussed before, but the evolving complexities of ARIN?s governance have stretched the capacity and skills of the Board with increased workload. We are reopening this discussion with the community to propose changes to strengthen specific areas of expertise on the Board, including corporate governance, finance, cybersecurity, and risk management.

We hope that by breaking these consultations out separately and conducting them successively that the community will be able to focus of the merits of each proposed change independently. During these consultations the GWG will be available to answer questions to provide clarity on the elements of the proposed improvements, and we will be using the feedback of the community to advise the Board on the final decision regarding each consultation. We look forward to robust community discussion as each consultation is conducted over the coming weeks.

Regards,

ARIN?s Board of Trustees, Governance Working Group
Nancy Carter, Peter Harrison, and Catherine Middleton




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From mike at iptrading.com  Thu Dec  2 16:14:32 2021
From: mike at iptrading.com (Mike Burns)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 16:14:32 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
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Hi John,

 

I prefer expanding the size of the board over term limits, but if the board stays the same size I support 9 year term limits.

I would prefer the limits apply to current board members.

Thanks to Andrew Dul for the analysis.

 

In reference to the NomCom discussion, since the NomCom calendar begins so early I would hope to see that discussion sooner rather than later.

 

Regards,

Mike

 

 

 

From: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2021 4:00 PM
To: Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com>
Cc: Robert E. Seastrom <rs at seastrom.com>; Paul Andersen <paul at arin.net>; arin-consult at arin.net
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees

 

On 2 Dec 2021, at 3:16 PM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com <mailto:mike at iptrading.com> > wrote:

 

In addition to the scope of the NomCom discussion, can we know when ?soon? is?

 

Mike -  

 

As noted in the attached message about this consultation series, there is a short list of topics that are being finalized for consideration by the Board for possible consultation with the community to improve ARIN?s governance. I asked the Board that these consultations not be done en masse due to the difficultly on maintaining reasonable engagement on many concurrent threads.  

 

We are presently conducting the community consultation on the merits of adding term limits to the ARIN Board of Trustees, and this consultation runs 15 days.  Upon its completion, we will be approach year-end and are likely to pause briefly until after the holidays/new year and then resume in early January with the others.  (Also note - it?s a tad premature to discuss the specific scope of future consultations until the Board has reviewed and finalized such.) 

 

I hope this helps inform folks on the process - with that information, do you have any views in support or opposition on the topic of term limits for the ARIN Board of Trustees?

 

Thanks!

/John

 

John Curran

President and CEO

American Registry for Internet Numbers

 

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From: ARIN <info at arin.net <mailto:info at arin.net> >

Subject: [arin-announce] ARIN Governance Working Group Consultation Series

Date: 1 December 2021 at 12:47:08 PM EST

To: arin-announce <arin-announce at arin.net <mailto:arin-announce at arin.net> >

 

ARIN?s Board of Trustees established a Governance Working Group (GWG) in January 2020 to assess the structure and operation of ARIN?s Board. To complete this work, the GWG will be presenting a series of four consultations, with the first one starting today at https://www.arin.net/participate/community/acsp/#consultations, to gather community input on proposed improvements to ARIN governance.

An article about the formation and work of the GWG is available on the ARIN Blog at https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/12/01/get-to-know-the-gwg/ to provide background on the work that led to this series of recommendations. Each of these consultations will be held over a period of two business weeks and the resulting feedback will be factored into implementation of any subsequent changes to ARIN?s Bylaws.

The topics of the four consultations are as follows:

* Term Limits for the Board of Trustees ? Proposing to impose term limits to balance continuity with healthy turnover, introduce differing views and fresh perspectives, and increase opportunities for participation on the Board.
* Changing the ARIN Election Process from ?First to the Post? Voting to a ?Single Transferable Vote? Balloting Process ? Proposing a new balloting process to provide greater voting choice and allow ranking candidates in order of preference to achieve more proportional election results with no wasted votes.
* Improvements to the Nomination Committee Process and Procedure ? Proposing changes that will support greater Board independence, transparency, and impartiality.
* Increasing the Board Size ? We recognize that this has been discussed before, but the evolving complexities of ARIN?s governance have stretched the capacity and skills of the Board with increased workload. We are reopening this discussion with the community to propose changes to strengthen specific areas of expertise on the Board, including corporate governance, finance, cybersecurity, and risk management.

We hope that by breaking these consultations out separately and conducting them successively that the community will be able to focus of the merits of each proposed change independently. During these consultations the GWG will be available to answer questions to provide clarity on the elements of the proposed improvements, and we will be using the feedback of the community to advise the Board on the final decision regarding each consultation. We look forward to robust community discussion as each consultation is conducted over the coming weeks.

Regards,

ARIN?s Board of Trustees, Governance Working Group
Nancy Carter, Peter Harrison, and Catherine Middleton




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From bill at herrin.us  Thu Dec  2 16:34:22 2021
From: bill at herrin.us (William Herrin)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 13:34:22 -0800
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 12:38 PM Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
> If this board believes that it is valuable to impose
> term-limits, then it should be willing to impose those
> limits on themselves, not just future board seats.

I agree. I'm not convinced term limits are the best idea but if they
are then the folks who've had their 9 years should age out as their
terms expire over the next 3. Those 3 years offer ample time for the
newcomers to get up to speed and limit the corporate memory loss.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


-- 
William Herrin
bill at herrin.us
https://bill.herrin.us/


From steven.feldman at cbsinteractive.com  Thu Dec  2 16:57:13 2021
From: steven.feldman at cbsinteractive.com (Steve Feldman)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 13:57:13 -0800
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
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I'm fine with the concept of term limits. Nine years seems like a
reasonable compromise between continuity and healthy turnover.

I do have some issues with this text:

> Current Board members may serve out the remainder of their current term,
> and the term limits will be imposed upon any subsequent re-election to the
> Board. Any current Board member would therefore be eligible to serve three
> additional terms upon re-election, to ensure continuity, orderly
> succession, and prevent precipitous loss of corporate memory.


Does this mean, as Andrew suggested, that the term limit timer doesn't
apply to currently serving Board members?  I agree with those who have
commented that any limits should also apply to current members, so anyone
at or beyond the limit should be ineligible for reelection when their
current term ends.

There's also a potential issue with short terms, for anyone who was elected
to fill out the remainder of someone else's term.  Should these partial
terms count toward the limit?  Note that under the current bylaws it's
possible for someone to be elected to consecutive partial terms.  At NANOG
we attempted to solve this by making the limit a fixed number of
consecutive years rather than terms.

     Steve
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From bzs at theworld.com  Thu Dec  2 17:41:49 2021
From: bzs at theworld.com (bzs at theworld.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 17:41:49 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 ARIN Board of Trustees
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3273.1638473508.22078.arin-consult@arin.net>
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On December 2, 2021 at 11:31 arin-consult at arin.net (Owen DeLong via ARIN-consult) wrote:
 > From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
 > To: ARIN <arin-consult at arin.net>
 > Cc: arin-consult at arin.net
 > Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Implementing Term Limits for the
 >  ARIN Board of Trustees
 > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:31:43 -0800
 >
 > I oppose term limits in general.
 >
 > In my opinion, they deprive voters of choice. Good governance is the product of an informed and involved electorate.
 >
 > We should be seeking ways to generate that rather than looking to prevent members from re-electing board members they feel are doing a good job.

Just a point of information and not specifically relevant but...

The major reason the US had to pass a constitutional amendment to put
term limits on presidents, and thus far hasn't passed any term limits
on congress, is that it deprives the candidate of their right to run
for election without due process or as specified in the constitution
(e.g., age, residency, etc.)

I realize there's no such constitutional issue at stake in an ARIN
election and by and large they can bar candidates for any reason so
long as it doesn't violate the usual race, religion, gender, etc
restrictions and I suppose can't be characterized as capricious (e.g.,
not previously stated in the by-laws) but I thought as a philosophical
point it might be worth raising.

That is, that it imposes an arguably unfair restriction on the
candidate as much as the voters.

--
        -Barry Shein

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From jcurran at arin.net  Wed Dec 29 14:28:49 2021
From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 19:28:49 +0000
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Final outcome regarding community consultation on
 membership structure change. (Fwd: [arin-announce] New ARIN Membership
 Structure for 2022)
References: <3EA1CA6B-D338-4606-B5B6-8C76A6F8F455@arin.net>
Message-ID: <B8ECA3E4-9856-4E73-A074-F955850862DC@arin.net>

FYI - Final outcome regarding community consultation on membership structure change.

I suspect that those interested enough to participate in ARIN consultations are also on arin-announce, but figured it would be best to forward this for avoidance of any doubt.

Thank you (and Happy Holidays!)
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

Begin forwarded message:

From: ARIN <info at arin.net<mailto:info at arin.net>>
Subject: [arin-announce] New ARIN Membership Structure for 2022
Date: 29 December 2021 at 1:37:28 PM EST
To: "arin-announce at arin.net<mailto:arin-announce at arin.net>" <arin-announce at arin.net<mailto:arin-announce at arin.net>>

ARIN held a consultation on proposed changes to ARIN?s Membership Structure from 28 October to 29 November 2021. The purpose of this consultation was to provide our customers ARIN?s plan for membership going forward and to seek feedback on planned changes to ARIN?s membership structure for 2022. The full details of the consultation are available at:

https://www.arin.net/participate/community/acsp/consultations/2021/2021-5/

The proposed change to membership structure introduces a new category known as ?Service Members?. The distinguishing characteristic between Service and General Member categories is related to the commitment to vote in ARIN?s elections.

Existing end-user customers will become Service Members as of 1 January 2022, and any Service Member organization may apply to become a General Member by submitting a request and meeting the General Member criteria. It is our hope that many end-user organizations will take advantage of the opportunity to participate in ARIN governance.

All General Members listed as of 31 December 2021 continue to be General Members, and ARIN will conduct a robust outreach to Service Members and new customers to inform them of their option to become General Members.

General members (whether existing or new ones who were previously end-user organizations and opted to become General Members) must participate in ARIN Elections to maintain their status. Following the 2023 ARIN annual election and each election thereafter, General Members that did not cast a ballot in any of the previous three ARIN elections will revert to Service Member status.

After considering the feedback from the community, ARIN will move forward to implement a new Membership structure beginning in January 2022, with the following changes:

? ARIN will offer an ?abstain/no vote? option to the ballot as a way for General Member organizations to record their participation in an ARIN election without casting a vote in support of any specific candidate.
? ARIN will implement a minimum petition threshold.
? General Members who revert to Service Members (due to not participating in ARIN elections) will be able to reapply to be a General Member and will not be required to wait one year to do so. Organizations are encouraged to maintain their General Member status to avoid administrative overhead and/or delay that might result from the Service Member application process.

Organizations applying to become General Members will need to meet the following criteria:

? Presently be an ARIN Service Member in good standing with IPv4 and/or IPv6 number resources receiving services under a valid ARIN registration services agreement.
? Agrees to participate in ARIN governance by participating in annual elections.
? Agrees to inclusion of their organization in ARIN?s public membership lists and voter lists.
? Agrees that their participation in the ARIN community will comply with ARIN?s Standards of Behavior and ARIN Mailing List Appropriate Usage Policy.

We thank everyone who provided valuable feedback on this consultation and look forward to seeing robust participation in ARIN governance as a result of providing greater membership access and options to our customers.

Regards,

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)


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