[ARIN-consult] ARIN-consult Digest, Vol 80, Issue 29

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Thu Apr 29 18:19:22 EDT 2021 

What  Richard Jimmerson said is correct based on this model your
company could upgrade from a ip6 /32 all the way up to a ip6 /16 and
no annual increase above the $32,000 you currently pay.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 6:00 PM <arin-consult-request at arin.net> wrote:
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> From: John Sweeting <jsweeting at arin.net>
> To: David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu>
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> Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Fee question on proposed change.
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> As indicated in the question the waiver expires 31 Dec 2026.
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> On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:41 AM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
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> I presume this fee waiver is not permeant. Therefore, how long is this fee waiver intended to persist? Is there a minimum commitment for the fee waiver that could be used for planning purposes by those eligible? Especially for new IPv6 allocations to decide between receiving a /40 and a /36 per NRPM section 6.5.2.1.b.
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> Thanks.
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> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:13 AM John Sweeting <jsweeting at arin.net<mailto:jsweeting at arin.net>> wrote:
> Yes, this waiver will apply to all customers in the 2X Small fee category with a /24 of IPv4 address space and and a /36 of IPv6 address space. It will also apply to a 3X Small with a /24 of IPv4 that requests a/36 of IPv6. The result will be that all customers that hold only a /24 of IPv4 can also hold up to a /36 of IPv6 and remain in the 3X Small Fee Category.
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> John Sweeting
> ARIN CCO
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> On Apr 28, 2021, at 10:04 PM, Citizen Support ARIN Support <ARIN at citizen.bz<mailto:ARIN at citizen.bz>> wrote:
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> On the fee page I have found this quote.
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> "*Note: There is a temporary IPv6 fee waiver for organizations in the 3X-Small services category. A 3X-Small organization may receive up to a /36 and remain in the 3X-Small fee category. This waiver will expire 31 December 2026"
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> An ip6 /36 is 2x-small does this mean that if this passes 2x small ip6 users only pay 3x small price as long as there ip4 block is still inside 3x ip4 size until end of 2026?
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> From: "Azinger, Marla" <Marla.Azinger at FTR.com>
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> Subject: [ARIN-consult] question on fee totals
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> Hello
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> Excuse me if this was answered already, but I don't see it on the website.
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> Looking at the proposed fee and write up, it's not clear whether every ORG ID is paying both a fee for V4 and V6 or just the higher fee between the two resources on the chart.
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> Example.  If ORG ID: "Example"    holds resource that fit  into  2X-Large $32,000 for v4   and   X-Small $1,000 for v6
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> Would ORG ID:" Example" have an annual bill of $32,000 or $33,000?
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> Thank you
> Marla Azinger
> IP Management
> Frontier Communications
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> From: Richard Jimmerson <richardj at arin.net>
> To: "Azinger, Marla" <Marla.Azinger at ftr.com>, "arin-consult at arin.net"
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> Hello Marla,
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> Thank you for reaching out with this question.
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> In the consultation for proposed 2022 fees, an organization that holds both IPv4 and IPv6 resources would only pay the higher of the two fees, but not both, as you have described. In your example, the annual fee for the organization would be $32,000.
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> Thank you again. We will review the the documentation to ensure this is clear.
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> Best regards,
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> Richard Jimmerson
> Chief Operating Officer
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
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> From: "Azinger, Marla" <Marla.Azinger at ftr.com<mailto:Marla.Azinger at ftr.com>>
> To: "arin-consult at arin.net<mailto:arin-consult at arin.net>" <arin-consult at arin.net<mailto:arin-consult at arin.net>>
> Sent: 4/29/2021 5:33:30 PM
> Subject: [ARIN-consult] question on fee totals
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> Hello
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> Excuse me if this was answered already, but I don?t see it on the website.
>
> Looking at the proposed fee and write up, it?s not clear whether every ORG ID is paying both a fee for V4 and V6 or just the higher fee between the two resources on the chart.
>
> Example.  If ORG ID: ?Example?    holds resource that fit  into  2X-Large $32,000 for v4   and   X-Small $1,000 for v6
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> Would ORG ID:? Example? have an annual bill of $32,000 or $33,000?
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> Thank you
> Marla Azinger
> IP Management
> Frontier Communications
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