From mje at posix.co.za  Wed May  2 09:29:05 2018
From: mje at posix.co.za (Mark Elkins)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 15:29:05 +0200
Subject: [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Consultation on Prohibiting
 Attachments on ARIN Mailing Lists
In-Reply-To: <e571fd96-4b59-e9bb-8034-1669aff48705@arin.net>
References: <e571fd96-4b59-e9bb-8034-1669aff48705@arin.net>
Message-ID: <c14241fe-cf27-74ac-0a85-cbd235e3e160@posix.co.za>

Was wondering if "what if it had been me".

Perhaps a softer first step is to automatically moderate a person who is
not following the mandate of the list? If spam comes from my e-mail
address - I'd be quite happy to be automatically moderated until I could
discover and remove the issue on my side, then would (on request) go
back to unmoderated. This would delay my valid posts - but - whatever,
lets protect the list.

Do I think attachments should be allowed: Yes. I also often take
(partial) screen shots and include that in e-mails - if its relevant.
Means HTML rather than raw text as well.
On all lists: I only read/follow a few ARIN lists - but see no great
harm in attachments. A picture can explain a thousand words.

Regarding the "porn" - just got back from Afrika Burn (our local Burning
Man), and well... still not relevant content for this list though.


On 24/04/2018 14:21, ARIN wrote:
> ARIN has received a suggestion requesting attachments be prohibited on
> ARIN public mailing lists, including PPML.
>
> * Question:? Should attachments be prohibited on ARIN public
> mailing lists?
>
> * Question:? If yes, should this include all ARIN public mailing
> lists, or only select lists?
>
> https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/index.html
>
> The feedback you provide during this consultation will help inform how
> ARIN will proceed in response to ACSP 2018.11. All messages that have
> been sent to ARIN mailing lists on this topic in the last week, and
> prior to the opening of this consultation, will be included in our
> feedback collection resulting from this consultation. Thank you for your
> participation in the ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process.
>
> Please provide comments to arin-consult at arin.net. You can subscribe to
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>
> Discussion on arin-consult at arin.net will close on 7 May 2018. If you
> have any questions, please contact us at info at arin.net.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
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From mysidia at gmail.com  Wed May  2 10:15:58 2018
From: mysidia at gmail.com (Jimmy Hess)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 09:15:58 -0500
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Prohibiting Attachments on ARIN
 Mailing Lists
In-Reply-To: <a2ac695c-eac2-5c47-c003-b0a764cab6b0@arin.net>
References: <a2ac695c-eac2-5c47-c003-b0a764cab6b0@arin.net>
Message-ID: <CAAAwwbWpDabTgopPZzZeB-tk1jzTrmJm+c35LGtOGpUL2D=ibA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 7:21 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> ARIN has received a suggestion requesting attachments be prohibited on
> ARIN public mailing lists, including PPML.
> * Question:  Should attachments be prohibited on ARIN public
> mailing lists?

No.     Well,  first of all  technically  all components of a MIME email
can be described as an attachment:   Don't break expected features
without good justification

File attachments have legitimate purposes,  for example
as mentioned GPG/PGP message signing --  alternative  plaintext versions of
messages sent in HTML or RTF format.

> * Question:  If yes, should this include all ARIN public mailing
> lists, or only select lists?

No.    Attachments are commonly used with e-mail,  and the standard
feature should
be supportable,  but  I suggest regulating  file attachment usage  for
situations where
they  pose a risk of harming participants or  exclusing people from a
discussion.

GPG message signing is common:   Attachments containing metadata about
other parts
of a message are harmless  providing they are  not useful for
malicious purposes,
and they are of a reasonable size.  100 Kilobytes is de-minimis.

I'm not sure what resources are available to run ARIN lists,   but
these days most services
provide  25-Gigabyte or larger mailboxes,  and  all the major ESPs
will handle 50 Megabyte objects,
so   even 1 Megabyte attachments  are widely considered de-minimis.

Example  of  reasonable restrictions on attachments:

(1) Filter attachment types so as to exclude  executables,   archive
files such as ZIP/RAR
and documents which  are DRM restricted, encrypted, or in a closed or
non-standard
file format,

Example: Microsoft Word Documents are in a closed format;  require a proprietary
operating system to view  --- Should not be used on a public
discussion list,  since not
everyone has the necessary expensive or closed-source software,  and
that unfairly
excludes some people from participating  in discussion or accessing
information that should be
publicly available.

(2).  Replies -   When replying to a message on the list;  Don't
duplicate the original attachments.
Don't attach files that are available from another source:   provide a
link to the source, instead.

(3).  Large documents   (Bigger than 1 MB)  --   Don't send.   If it
is highly-pertinent or necessary to
the discussion then send a durable download link instead  of attaching
the file into in an e-mail message.

(4).  Unrelated Files -  Message parts that add up to larger than 100K  must
be related to specific  on-topic discussion.    Do NOT attach a graphic such as
a GIF or JPEG for use in an e-mail signature,  for comedic or
promotional reasons;
graphics should provide  diagrams or other visual information related
to the topic.


> https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/index.html

> John Curran
--
-JH


From info at arin.net  Fri May  4 15:56:31 2018
From: info at arin.net (ARIN)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 15:56:31 -0400
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on ASO Review Consultation 2018 Now
 Closed
Message-ID: <80feed58-343c-74e0-c752-c41a143043f1@arin.net>

ARIN thanks those who provided valuable feedback during this 
consultation on the ASO Review. This important feedback will help inform 
ARIN?s path forward in this area.

Regards,

Communications and Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)







From info at arin.net  Fri May 11 16:08:54 2018
From: info at arin.net (ARIN)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 16:08:54 -0400
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Prohibiting Attachments on PPML is
 Closed
Message-ID: <5AF5F856.1090203@arin.net>

ARIN thanks those who provided valuable feedback during this 
consultation that was issued in response to ACSP Suggestion 2018.11: 
Prohibit Attachments on PPML.

https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/suggestions/2018-11.html

This important feedback will help inform ARIN's path forward in this area.

Regards,

Communications and Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)





From info at arin.net  Mon May 14 11:21:30 2018
From: info at arin.net (ARIN)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 11:21:30 -0400
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Open ACSP Suggestions is Closed
Message-ID: <70208ed9-c1b5-8075-96f2-3be4fcb6aa3c@arin.net>

ARIN thanks those who provided valuable feedback during this
consultation and survey on the current backlog of ACSP suggestions that
are not on the 2018 Work Plan. The information gleaned from the survey
will be one of the inputs used to help determine which suggestions will
be included ARIN's 2019 Work Plan.

Regards,

Communications and Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)





From info at arin.net  Wed May 30 11:23:37 2018
From: info at arin.net (ARIN)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 11:23:37 -0400
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN Board
 is Now Closed
Message-ID: <756e4c6e-5dde-256c-9580-737581bdb703@arin.net>

ARIN thanks those who provided valuable feedback during this
consultation expanding the size of the ARIN Board. This important
feedback will be considered by the Board in their future deliberations
on this matter.

Regards,

John Curran
President & CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)