[ARIN-consult] [E] Re: Consultation on Orphaned Organization (Org) and Point of Contact (POC) Records

[Owen DeLong]

+1

Owen

> On Aug 6, 2018, at 08:30, Joe Provo <jzp-arin-consult at rsuc.gweep.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> [personal hat on]
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 07:37:54AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> [snip]
>> It might be nice if it was sufficient to simply validate the POC
>> ala current POC validation procedure rather than requiring some
>> form of change, but if there???s some reason not to permit that,
>> I???m not strongly tied to the idea.
> 
> Allowing POC validation to de-orphan (until the next iteration)
> nicely covers a number of smaller edge cases previously raised.
> I think that's a big win for aliveness detection.
> 
> Offhand, I'd lean to qtrly rather than 60 days as even the
> larger iceberg orgs tend to be able to address things on that
> timescale. Not super wedded to that detail.
> 
> JC previously wrote:
>> Of the 454,090 Org IDs that currently have one and only one 
>> reassignment, 81,480 (18%) are duplicates (i.e. share the exact 
>> same organization name with another of the 454,090). 
>> While there may be differences in street address, contacts, etc, 
>> this suggests an opportunity on the part of ISPs to examine their 
>> SWIP publication practices and cut down on duplicate records, 
>> which in turn reduces orphaned records.
> 
> I would refer back to the entire discussion around "POC validation 
> on insert/creation" related to larger entities with poor practices.
> As that's only 18% of the current problem, perhaps a symmetrical
> process of "POC validation at time of orphaning" would be desirable
> *after* this larger garbage collection process had run its course?
> It seems to me that keeping the data hygiene part of the transaction
> would increase the likelihood of success (attention is currently 
> here) else we'll be permanently relying upon garbage collection 
> sweeps and the possibility of having to re-engage well after 
> transactions have been completed and forgotten.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Joe
> 
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