[E] Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Orphaned Organization (Org) and Point of Contact (POC) Records

Thu Aug 2 09:30:24 EDT 2018

Hello David,

I suspect that we are seeing an uptick in orphaned supporting records (Orgs and POCs) relating to the increase in ARIN Fees (account consolidations to reduce costs) and the sale of IPv4 addresses where the total held assets are transferred.  In both cases we are seeing consolidations and centralizations of resources creating more orphans.

That said, I’m onboard with wanting to know the cause of the orphans.  How many of the newly created 63K were direct recourse holders and how many were reassignments?  Of the former direct resource holders; how many became orphans through a transfer to specified recipient?

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Subject: [E] Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Orphaned Organization (Org) and Point of Contact (POC) Records

63,455 organizations orphaned in the last year seems like a lot to me. Were these organizations ever associated with resources? How long ago were they created? How long were they associated with resources? How many of these organizations were child organizations, from reallocations or reassignments? How many created by ARIN making allocations or assignments?

This cleanup should happen. However, it kind of sounds like something is broken somewhere too. If that is the case, that should get fixed too.

Thanks

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 1:44 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net<mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
In an effort to improve the quality and integrity of the data in the
ARIN database, we are exploring a number of new and improved processes
and procedures.  As part of this effort, we are proposing that ARIN
establish a routine procedure for deleting and archiving orphaned
Organization (Org) and Point of Contact (POC) records in the ARIN database.

We have defined an "orphaned Organization" as one that has no registered
number resources. An "orphaned POC" is defined as one that is not
directly associated with any number resources nor associated with any
organization that has registered number resources.

There are several compelling reasons to consider deletion of orphaned
Orgs and POCs.  Long orphaned Orgs and POCS are likely to serve no
purpose in the registry, they often contain outdated information, and
their presence may expose personal data in a manner that may be
inconsistent with ARIN's personal data privacy policy.
(https://www.arin.net/privacy.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.arin.net_privacy.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=PNlZCOTcrBXvix6v31kntg680rC2tshHDXM0RcJv5bE&m=LFgJxgMS40VfZPs9tLL-aizJEVY9RPLkdZ9rMm7qbnM&s=Yq3mov8a1IhXpwkYAuduKiER8MwxDyFAllY059ixUW0&e=>)

An analysis of the ARIN registry for orphaned records has shown the
following results:

Total # of registered Orgs in ARIN's database:  926,474
Total # of Orgs that have been orphaned for 1+ years:  317,730
Total # of Orgs that have been orphaned for 2+ years:  254,275

Total # of registered POCs in ARIN's database:  919,050
Total # of POCs that have been orphaned for 1+ years:  351,644
Total # of POCs that have been orphaned for 2+ years:  291,741

The proposed procedure would result in the deletion and archival of all
Orgs and POCs that have been orphaned for 2 or more years.   This
procedure would be run on a quarterly basis initially, with the plan
being to move to a more frequent basis (such as monthly) once there is
operational experience.  All orphaned data will be removed from the
database and archived in perpetuity.  Note that deleted unique Org and
POC handles will not be re-utilized.

We are seeking community feedback on this proposed modification to
current ARIN practices with regards to data maintenance.

This consultation will remain open for thirty (30) days, after which the
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received.
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