[ARIN-consult] Clarifications to Community Consultation on Change to Whois Output for Certain /8 REcords

[Jo Rhett]

I would intensely prefer this new change. I've had to rewrite our abuse tools to work around the current output and this would remove a lot of hacking, and make it consistent with other registries.

On Apr 9, 2013, at 10:17 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> We received a request for a sample Whois output to produce a set of
> sample queries showing the current state and the proposed new state to
> facilitate discussion on the consultation. Given the query “whois -h
> whois.arin.net 150.102.0.0”, today’s output lists both the DA network
> and the other RIR managing 150.0.0.0/8 (RIPE NCC).
> 
> #
> # Query terms are ambiguous. The query is assumed to be:
> # "n 150.102.0.0"
> #
> # Use "?" to get help.
> #
> 
> #
> # The following results may also be obtained via:
> #
> http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=150.102.0.0?showDetails=true&showARIN=false&ext=netref2
> #
> 
> Eastman Kodak Company KODAK2 (NET-150-102-0-0-1) 150.102.0.0 -
> 150.102.255.255
> Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-150 (NET-150-0-0-0-0)
> 150.0.0.0 - 150.255.255.255
> 
> 
> #
> # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
> # available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html
> #
> 
> The suggested change would list the details only for 150.102.0.0/16:
> #
> # Query terms are ambiguous. The query is assumed to be:
> # "n + 150.102.0.0"
> #
> # Use "?" to get help.
> #
> 
> #
> # The following results may also be obtained via:
> #
> http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=150.102.0.0?showDetails=true&showARIN=false&ext=netref2
> #
> 
> 
> # start
> 
> NetRange: 150.102.0.0 - 150.102.255.255
> CIDR: 150.102.0.0/16
> OriginAS:
> NetName: KODAK2
> NetHandle: NET-150-102-0-0-1
> Parent: NET-150-0-0-0-0
> NetType: Direct Assignment
> RegDate: 1991-06-04
> Updated: 2003-12-01
> Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-150-102-0-0-1
> 
> OrgName: Eastman Kodak Company
> OrgId: EASTMA
> Address: IP Management Services - External Access
> Address: 343 State St
> City: Rochester
> StateProv: NY
> PostalCode: 14650-1250
> Country: US
> RegDate: 1987-12-01
> Updated: 2011-09-24
> Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/EASTMA
> 
> OrgTechHandle: ZE60-ARIN
> OrgTechName: Eastman Kodak Company
> OrgTechPhone: +1-585-724-4000
> OrgTechEmail: ipadmin at kodak.com
> OrgTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZE60-ARIN
> 
> OrgAbuseHandle: ZE60-ARIN
> OrgAbuseName: Eastman Kodak Company
> OrgAbusePhone: +1-585-724-4000
> OrgAbuseEmail: ipadmin at kodak.com
> OrgAbuseRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZE60-ARIN
> 
> RTechHandle: ZE60-ARIN
> RTechName: Eastman Kodak Company
> RTechPhone: +1-585-724-4000
> RTechEmail: ipadmin at kodak.com
> RTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZE60-ARIN
> 
> # end
> 
> 
> To clarify some other questions raised in the discussion thus far, the
> mechanism used by some whois clients to conduct this referral is
> informal and non-standard. There is no URI or hostname pointer referring
> to a server and therefore no easy way to point to a secondary ARIN Whois
> server.
> 
> In addition, there is no intent to change the behavior of the ARIN’s
> current RESTful Whois service. However, the RDAP standard being
> specified by the WEIRDS working group of the IETF does have different
> referral behavior than ARIN’s current RESTful Whois service. ARIN
> envisions that it will run both its current RESTful Whois service and
> the new RDAP standard side-by-side once the RDAP standard is complete.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Andy Newton
> Chief Engineer
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> 
> 
> 
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Jo Rhett
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