[ARIN-consult] Fee restructuring

Jesse D. Geddis jesse at la-broadband.com
Sat Oct 27 17:25:46 EDT 2012

Aren't we pretty far into the weeds here in minutiae?

There's two aspects to a fee, right.

1. To the extent to which it can be used to incentivise purchase. Which is all that's being discussed here.

2. To the extent in which the resulting revenue can be used for advocacy, workshops, training and so on and so forth. 

I think the second item has a much greater impact region-wide than the difference of $200 for a narrow number of organisations.

Will a $200 per annum savings have a massive regional impact? Not likely. But take a look at the other side of that and you've answered both problems. If the concern is a narrow number of nonprofits is what we are discussing opting for a greater revenue generating option allows you to subsidise those exact users 'can make it free' via the larger community on a case by case basis. 

I still don't see the logic in making things progressively cheaper as your allocation grows. I think the cost should scale directly with the resources bing consumed. In the case of the proposed fees exactly the opposite is happening. Why?

Jesse Geddis
LA Broadband LLC
ASN 16602

On Oct 27, 2012, at 1:34 PM, "Jo Rhett" <jrhett at netconsonance.com> wrote:

> On Oct 27, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
>> The assumptions will be true for over 95% of cases.
> +1   if not more like 99% 
>> It would be an excellent thing (when resources permit) for ARIN to
>> donate some registry services to non-profit organizations that have
>> limited access to cash,  but  still have good need/justification for
>> IP space,  and  provide a meaningful benefit to the community.
>> By reducing, waiving fees,  or obtaining something other than cash in
>> exchange for ARIN services,  in those rare exceptional cases.
> +1
>> But the fee schedule for ARIN to recover its costs shouldn't be designed around it.
> where 'it' == a very small number of cases.
> +1
> -- 
> Jo Rhett
> Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.
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