[ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Fee Schedule Change Consultation

[Mike A. Salim]

Hello Owen,

I agree with your suggestion regarding grandfathering those few early adopter ISPs who happened to be X-Small IPv4 but were allocated a /32 IPv6.  I suspect that number of ISPs is very few :-)

As for your suggestion on renumbering into a /36, we have reviewed it here internally.  It would be messy, to say the least.  We are actively using and allocating those addresses.

Best regards
Mike

A. Michael Salim
VP and Chief Technology Officer,
American Data Technology, Inc.
PO Box 12892
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA
P: (919)544-4101 x101
F: (919)544-5345
E: msalim at localweb.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:45 AM
To: Mike A. Salim
Cc: Jimmy Hess; arin-consult at arin.net
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Fee Schedule Change Consultation

For those that have /32s only because /36s weren't an option in policy when they obtained their space, the option does exist to consolidate into a /36 of your /32 and return the remainder to ARIN in order to become an X-Small IPv6 if the proposed fee structure is implemented.

Personally, I would rather see the fee structure modified so that /32s issued to X-small IPv4 providers prior to the policy change that allowed for /36s were grandfathered as X-Small in the IPv6 category, but, I wouldn't want to create a blanket exemption for all /32 holders or even all X-small IPv4 holders.

Owen

On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:36 AM, "Mike A. Salim" <msalim at localweb.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Yes, I am happy to pay for what I use.  I am happy with the great job ARIN is doing, and fully understand and support the need for fees.
> 
> My issue is this:  If I am classified as a Small vs. X-Small because of my IPv4 usage that I had requested, that is fine.  But I am being classified as a Small not because of what I requested or use, but because of what I was allocated as an early adopter of IPv6.  Had the smaller X-Small IPv6 been available at the time, that is what I would have requested.  I did not really need a /32 IPv6.
> 
> So, IMHO, an exception should be made for those ISPs who are allocated and using a X-Small IPv4, but were allocated a Small /32 IPv6 as early adopters because there was no X-Small IPv6 at the time, resulting in them being classified as Small vs X-Small.  Also, this should be done without forcing these early adopter ISPs to give up and renumber their /32 IPv6 space - we are now actively using our IPv6 space.  Renumbering would be problematic for us.
> 
> Best regards
> Mike
> 
> A. Michael Salim
> VP and Chief Technology Officer,
> American Data Technology, Inc.
> PO Box 12892
> Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA
> P: (919)544-4101 x101
> F: (919)544-5345
> E: msalim at localweb.com
> W: http://www.localweb.com
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jimmy Hess [mailto:mysidia at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:46 PM
> To: Mike A. Salim
> Cc: arin-consult at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Fee Schedule Change 
> Consultation
> 
> On 11/16/12, Mike A. Salim <msalim at localweb.com> wrote:
>> Greetings:
>> 
>> 1) We have an IPv4 /20 and an IPv6 /32.  According to the new fee 
>> schedule, we will be X-small for IPv4 ($1000) but Small for IPv6 
>> ($2000).  Since the
>> /32 was assigned to us by ARIN when this was the smallest allocation 
>> that ARIN was allocating, we hope we will be considered X-Small for 
>> both IPv4 and
>> IPv6
> 
> I agree... this is broken.    A single IPv6  /32  should be  X-Small  for IPv6.
> 
> --
> -JH
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