[ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Fee Schedule Change Consultation

Jesse D. Geddis jesse at la-broadband.com
Thu Nov 15 16:37:15 EST 2012

Of course, your #2 is quite humorous in light of the fact that this whole thread was started regarding how to leverage fees to *encourage* IPv6 adoption. Now you folks are talking about withholding it from some of the largest holders of IPv4 address space. Way to come full circle...

Jesse Geddis
LA Broadband LLC

On Nov 15, 2012, at 1:12 PM, "William Herrin" <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>> I actually like this. I support this proposal.
> As do I with two caveats:
> 1. Don't describe it as "unpaid fees," describe it as an "accrued
> transfer fee for registrations not held under a registration services
> agreement" or something similarly neutral. Negative words like
> "unpaid" imply a penalty and this isn't supposed to be a penalty for
> anyone.
> 2. Don't refuse to interact with a registrant on matters unrelated to
> the legacy registration. Tell a legacy registrant he can't have IPv6
> addresses unless he first signs over his IPv4 addresses and you make
> that registrant's choice an easy one: no IPv6 this year.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>> On Nov 14, 2012, at 20:14 , Jimmy Hess <mysidia at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/14/12, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>>> On Nov 14, 2012, at 07:52 , Brian Johnson <bjohnson at drtel.com> wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>> 1.   Discontinue services to legacy holders that don't start paying.
>>> There is another possibility...   don't discontinue anything to
>>> non-LRSA signees, but retain the usage "tracking" data necessary to
>>> calculate a fee assessment amount for legacy holders who have not
>>> paid, according to the ordinary fee schedule,  all past unpaid fees
>>> since a certain date,  plus compound interest at prime rate plus 5%
>>> over that period.    Require payment of the tracked amount, and signed
>>> RSA, before any resources can be transferred in or out,  or new
>>> resources can be  requested.
>>> In this manner,  legacy holders  are still assessed the fees.
>>> If they fail or refuse to pay, they are not denied   "legacy services".
>>> There are no consequences until they need to transfer resources in or out,
>>> or obtain new resources from ARIN  (e.g. IPv6 resources or additional AS number)
>>>> 2.   Treat LRSA Signatories as a group that isn't subjected to the new fees.
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