[ARIN-consult] PDP Consultation Reminder

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Tue Jun 26 21:09:33 EDT 2012

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Decisions to send Recommended Draft Policies to the ARIN
>> Board shall be made by the affirmative roll call vote of the two thirds of
>> the members of the full Advisory Council.
> Do folks feel that is an improvement over the current PDP (which requires a
> simple majority of the full AC to send a draft policy to the board, with no
> time limit)?  Or is that too high a bar?

I like it and I'd like to see the concept generalized. Consensus means
converting the opposition to support. A policy should meet a
progression of increasingly higher demonstrations of support to be
adopted. A low hurdle to enter draft stage and formal discussion. A
higher hurdle to get to last call. And a higher still hurdle to go to
the board.

While not perfect by any means, that seems like it would be more
likely to track the general consent of the community than a simple
majority vote.

Here's the thing... if you believe that the ends don't justify the
means (and you should; it's self-evident) then you have to accept the
converse: the integrity of a process is more important than any single
result. ARIN desires to represent the will of the address-using
community. The process of codifying that will should reflect that,
even if the community's will is sometimes contradictory, suboptimal
and on rare occasion self destructive. If the process is trustworthy,
the community can correct any mistakes.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> OTOH, some of our best and most useful policies have been controversial ones
> that passed by narrow margins

Name three and I'll tell you how each has damaged the address
management process where a little more care might have avoided the

> while some of our worst have enjoyed strong
> supermajorities.

This is the more interesting statement. I'm actually very curious
which policies you would identify here.

Bill Herrin

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