[consult] Call for Consultation: ARIN WHOIS Directory Services
michael.dillon at bt.com
michael.dillon at bt.com
Fri Jul 27 04:32:32 EDT 2007
> > It strikes me that people are forgetting that we are
> dealing with IP
> > address ranges, not CIDR blocks. ARIN does not allocate
> CIDR blocks,
> > they allocate IP address ranges, especially to larger ISPs.
>
> Are you kidding me? ARIN allocates Internet Resources, which
> we collectively refer to in CIDR notation, since the classful
> schemes were left back in BGP v3.
Referring to addresses in CIDR notation is not what I am talking about.
Nor am I talking about VLSM in operations.
Let's say that I can justify 45,000 addresses for my next ISP
allocation. What will ARIN allocate me?
If you said a /16, you would be wrong. In fact ARIN will allocate me a
range of addresses such as 99.0.0.0-191.255.255. Of course, you can
express this single allocated range as two CIDR blocks, 99.0.0.0/17 and
99.128.0.0/18 but the whois data will still show this as a single
netrange. There is a difference between a range of IP addresses and a
CIDR block.
> Don't you mean .. 12.0.0.0-12.127.255.255 ? Another reason
> some folks need it made easier to do the query than figure
> out the ranges involved.
Exactly. OVERLAP seems to be more useful than exact matching.
> > Allow a LIMIT clause that limits the number of entries
> returned, i.e
> > LIMIT 10 would only return the 10 largest ranges.
> >
> > Allow a MINIMUM clause that also limits entries returned,
> i.e. MINIMUM
> > /19 would only return ranges equal to or larger than /19
>
> Umm, wow is this overkill. As we have already discussed, the
> 256 limit should be applied and adhered to.
And what if I don't WANT 256 entries. What if I want to look for ranges
only of a certain size? Or maybe I just want a screenful of the biggest
ranges that overlap a search range.
> Oh man. Web based portals make a much better look/feel/functionality
> than a unix shell,
And what about security? The issue is security of the communication
channel between ARIN and the PA holders.
--Michael Dillon
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