ARIN Justified...

webtrends doesn't use the IPs.
-jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: <trh at thehathawaygroup.com>
To: "'Virtual IP List'" <vwp at arin.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: ARIN Justified...


> What will this do to web usage reporting software? Is software like
> Webtrends going to be able to deal with IP-less web sites?
>
> TRH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vwp at arin.net [mailto:owner-vwp at arin.net]On Behalf Of Mark
> Strother
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:54 PM
> To: Virtual IP List
> Subject: RE: ARIN Justified...
>
>
> Stephen is right. For us the biggest issue is billing. We collect billing
> data using NetFlow and export the data to our accounting and billing
> software based on IP address.
>
> It would take a lot of work/money to migrate from this system.
>
> Mark Strother
> President, Pacific Online
> Phone: (604) 638-6010
> Fax: (604) 638-6020
> Toll Free: 1-877-503-9870
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-vwp at arin.net [mailto:owner-vwp at arin.net]On Behalf Of Stephen
> > Elliott
> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:20 PM
> > To: Virtual IP List
> > Subject: RE: ARIN Justified...
> >
> >
> > The big guys that you refer to are generally not in the web hosting
> > business and therefore are outside of the scope of this conversation.
> > The real concern is the big guys like Exodus and UUNet.  Since IPv6 is
> > not a viable option for general consumption yet, we need to concentrate
> > on conserving the existing IPv4 space.  As far as search engines go, if
> > enough sites start using HTTP1.1 software virtual servers, they will be
> > forced to upgrade their spiders to support it.  I would suggest that one
> > of the main issues at hand is billing.  Billing for web hosting
> > companies that is.  Most companies bundle bandwidth with their hosting
> > packages, and current billing packages utilize destination IP address
> > information to gather this information.  If there is not a way to get
> > this information without drastic changes to both billing software and in
> > some cases hardware, there will be very strong opposition to any changes
> > in the way IP addresses are given out.
> > -Stephen
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Elliott                 Harrison & Troxell
> > Systems & Networking Manager    2 Faneuil Hall Marketplace
> > Systems & Networking Group      Boston, Ma 02109
> > (617)227-0494 Phone             (617)720-3918 Fax
> >
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