Abuse of ARIN policies.

we're talking about an ideal world, and in ideal world none of that would
happen :-P lol....... but that is the drawbakc, you have to used like NT
hosting to take care of that shit.....

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Joe DeCosta
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Simon wrote:

> Here are few for you to answer: How do you implement traffic shapping
> on a shared web server without dedicated IPs? this is necessary for
> high-traffic websites. Also, how do you block an IP at the router/kernel
> when you're being attacked (or just have the need) just on that single
> IP without affecting other 100+ clients?
> 
> -Simon
> 
> 
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:39:29 -0700 (PDT), Joe DeCosta wrote:
> 
> >ok, why does ANYONE need more than say 10 IP's for 100 domains
> >hosted??? and thats high traffice hosting too
> >i've seen networks do gigabytes in a few hours with as little as 15 IP's
> >and something like 250 domains....with ssl......on NT no less........
> >
> >______________________
> >Joe DeCosta
> >joe at decosta.org
> >~Off to see the wonderful wizard of Oz!~
> >~because of the wonderful things he does!~
> >
> >On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Chapel Support wrote:
> >
> >> Come on guys.    As a webhosting provider we have to justify to ARIN
> >> when we ask for new IP space.
> >> 
> >> A "busy" web hosting provider should be able to expect help from large
> >> virtual ISP's, and a simple request for your numbering is not a lot to
> >> be asked for.... 
> >> 
> >> We have clients that control 500-600 IP's and when a client does not pay
> >> them they simply recycle that IP to another domain.  For us to keep
> >> track of all these guy's activity would require additional tech people
> >> to keep track of nothing but changes. 
> >> 
> >> We ask for this not to pilfer your client's but to get more IP's from
> >> ARIN.
> >> 
> >> Lee Murphy
> >>  
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-vwp at arin.net [mailto:owner-vwp at arin.net] On Behalf Of Potent
> >> Products
> >> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:58 PM
> >> To: ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)
> >> Subject: Re: Abuse of ARIN policies.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sounds to me like your Hosting company is asking you to do "their work"
> >> for them. By default, when you have space on "someone else's" Server,
> >> there is nothing you can hide from them. Ergo: they should know
> >> everything you are doing.
> >> 
> >> Although they have the "authority" to make a request (like the one you
> >> describe) I would CMA by sending the information directly to your
> >> Hoster, using double-registered Postal Mail.
> >> 
> >> Just a thought.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Website Rob
> >> Sitemaster at
> >> http://www.PotentProducts.com
> >> ------------------------------------------
> >> Helping people create a Potent Web Site
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "L. James Prevo" <president at prevo.net>
> >> To: "ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
> >> Sent: April 27, 2001 3:25 PM
> >> Subject: Abuse of ARIN policies.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I though I would pass this onto the users of this list.  I am wondering
> >> about your feelings about this.  Is ARIN requesting this info as this
> >> message to this user suggest?
> >> 
> >> L. James Prevo
> >> President
> >> The Prevo Network
> >> http://www.prevo.net
> >> "The Place Where We Unlock Your Doors to the Net!"
> >> 
> >> Message: 5
> >> From: "hirsh -e-skwirtz" <hirsheskwirtz at hotmail.com>
> >> To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
> >> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:16:20 -0700
> >> Subject: [cobalt-users] what the hell kind of crap is this???
> >> Reply-To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
> >> 
> >> my isp and server provider sent me this email - demanding my custoner
> >> list -
> >> 
> >> has anybody ever had to deal with this sort of intrusion?
> >> 
> >> we have been told we will loose our servers if we do not comply
> >> 
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> 
> >> Subject: IP audit
> >> CC: ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> Our IP's are being checked (audited) by ARIN. We must justify the IP
> >> usage to ARIN or we may lose IP's. If we lose the IP's we might not be
> >> able to provide some services to you, Cobalt Racks customers (one of our
> >> major competitors recently lost a big part of their IP allocation).
> >> 
> >> As you know, there is a shortage of IP's worldwide. Please help us to
> >> keep the IP's and provide services for you. This is what we need:
> >> 
> >> - Complete list of all your IP's
> >> 
> >> - Complete list of ALL DOMAINS on EACH IP.
> >> 
> >> We count on your support. This information is confidential and goes only
> >> to ARIN, which is a non-profit organization.
> >> 
> >> Please send this back by Friday, May 4, 2001. WE MUST HAVE THIS
> >> INFORMATION!
> >> 
> >> Please send the list to ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
> >> 
> >> Thank you.
> >> 
> >> Tom Surmiak
> >> Sales
> >> Cobalt Racks
> >> 
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