Abuse of ARIN policies.

Here are few for you to answer: How do you implement traffic shapping
on a shared web server without dedicated IPs? this is necessary for
high-traffic websites. Also, how do you block an IP at the router/kernel
when you're being attacked (or just have the need) just on that single
IP without affecting other 100+ clients?

-Simon


On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:39:29 -0700 (PDT), Joe DeCosta wrote:

>ok, why does ANYONE need more than say 10 IP's for 100 domains
>hosted??? and thats high traffice hosting too
>i've seen networks do gigabytes in a few hours with as little as 15 IP's
>and something like 250 domains....with ssl......on NT no less........
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>On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Chapel Support wrote:
>
>> Come on guys.    As a webhosting provider we have to justify to ARIN
>> when we ask for new IP space.
>> 
>> A "busy" web hosting provider should be able to expect help from large
>> virtual ISP's, and a simple request for your numbering is not a lot to
>> be asked for.... 
>> 
>> We have clients that control 500-600 IP's and when a client does not pay
>> them they simply recycle that IP to another domain.  For us to keep
>> track of all these guy's activity would require additional tech people
>> to keep track of nothing but changes. 
>> 
>> We ask for this not to pilfer your client's but to get more IP's from
>> ARIN.
>> 
>> Lee Murphy
>>  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-vwp at arin.net [mailto:owner-vwp at arin.net] On Behalf Of Potent
>> Products
>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:58 PM
>> To: ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)
>> Subject: Re: Abuse of ARIN policies.
>> 
>> 
>> Sounds to me like your Hosting company is asking you to do "their work"
>> for them. By default, when you have space on "someone else's" Server,
>> there is nothing you can hide from them. Ergo: they should know
>> everything you are doing.
>> 
>> Although they have the "authority" to make a request (like the one you
>> describe) I would CMA by sending the information directly to your
>> Hoster, using double-registered Postal Mail.
>> 
>> Just a thought.
>> 
>> 
>> Website Rob
>> Sitemaster at
>> http://www.PotentProducts.com
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Helping people create a Potent Web Site
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "L. James Prevo" <president at prevo.net>
>> To: "ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
>> Sent: April 27, 2001 3:25 PM
>> Subject: Abuse of ARIN policies.
>> 
>> 
>> I though I would pass this onto the users of this list.  I am wondering
>> about your feelings about this.  Is ARIN requesting this info as this
>> message to this user suggest?
>> 
>> L. James Prevo
>> President
>> The Prevo Network
>> http://www.prevo.net
>> "The Place Where We Unlock Your Doors to the Net!"
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> From: "hirsh -e-skwirtz" <hirsheskwirtz at hotmail.com>
>> To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
>> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:16:20 -0700
>> Subject: [cobalt-users] what the hell kind of crap is this???
>> Reply-To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
>> 
>> my isp and server provider sent me this email - demanding my custoner
>> list -
>> 
>> has anybody ever had to deal with this sort of intrusion?
>> 
>> we have been told we will loose our servers if we do not comply
>> 
>> >>>>>>>
>> 
>> Subject: IP audit
>> CC: ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Our IP's are being checked (audited) by ARIN. We must justify the IP
>> usage to ARIN or we may lose IP's. If we lose the IP's we might not be
>> able to provide some services to you, Cobalt Racks customers (one of our
>> major competitors recently lost a big part of their IP allocation).
>> 
>> As you know, there is a shortage of IP's worldwide. Please help us to
>> keep the IP's and provide services for you. This is what we need:
>> 
>> - Complete list of all your IP's
>> 
>> - Complete list of ALL DOMAINS on EACH IP.
>> 
>> We count on your support. This information is confidential and goes only
>> to ARIN, which is a non-profit organization.
>> 
>> Please send this back by Friday, May 4, 2001. WE MUST HAVE THIS
>> INFORMATION!
>> 
>> Please send the list to ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Tom Surmiak
>> Sales
>> Cobalt Racks
>> 
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