Things that need to be addressed
Steve Pierce
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Mon Nov 6 18:28:19 EST 2000
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Hi David, you wrote: >> ARIN cannot force A holders to give anything back, >> nor restrict them from future allocations, in my >> opinion. But isn't ARIN in effect restricting new address allocation right now by mandating IP-less addressing for small carriers and hosts and denying requests for new address blocks? The FCC can, when it is determined that spectrum is not being used in the best interest of the public at large, take back that spectrum and reallocate it. We may want to consider IP address space like spectrum. Might it be possible as part of the anti-trust approval for a future super Telco merger that the large carriers agree to give up duplicative address space within 1 to two years after merging. By tightening up the address space for the largest carriers it will get them thinking about a way to address the needs if IP conservation like IP-less hosting while solving the problem of filtering. Think about it. If all cars were made in Saudi Arabia, do you really think the car manufacturers would be worried about fuel mileage? Until it is painful for both large and small carrier, it is unlikely this problem can be solved in an equitable manner. David, I like what you said when you wrote: >> There has to be a better way to approach this - I just >> hope one of us can happen upon it. :| I think it is possible to come up some other workable solution but until we can recognize and accept that we have a problem, no other solution will appear. Forcing ip-less addresses without solving the problem of filtering will only force people to use deception to acquire additional address space. That would seem to defeat the purpose of trying to conserve address space as addresses would be allocated to those who could B.S. the best. - Steve Steve Pierce, HDL Direct: (734) 482-9682 mailto:Steve at HDL.com | http://HDL.com -----Original Message----- From: David R Huberman [mailto:huberman at gblx.net] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 5:56 PM To: Steve Pierce Subject: RE: Things that need to be addressed Hi Steve, While I agree with you in principle, I find your suggestions for solving the problem unrealistic. ARIN cannot force A holders to give anything back, nor restrict them from future allocations, in my opinion. There has to be a better way to approach this - I just hope one of us can happen upon it. :| /david * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * DAVID R HUBERMAN Manager, Global IP Addressing Global Crossing - IP Engineering 1410 Esplanade Drive #443 Tel: (917) 498-1679 Reston, Virginia 20194 FAX: (408) 734-0451
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