From cscora at dev.apnic.net Thu Feb 1 13:04:51 2001 From: cscora at dev.apnic.net (Routing Analysis) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:04:51 +1000 (EST) Subject: Weekly Routing Table Report Message-ID: <200102011804.EAA29668@dev.apnic.net> This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats at lists.apnic.net For a graphical representation, please see http://www.apnic.net/stats/bgp. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith . Routing Table Report 02 Feb, 2001 Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 100908 Origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 9827 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 3489 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1316 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 5.3 Max AS path length visible: 18 Illegal AS announcements present in the Routing Table: 17 Non-routable prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from the IANA Reserved Address blocks: 2 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 1202892915 Equivalent to 71 /8s, 178 /16s and 176 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 32.5 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 63.6 Percentage of available address space allocated: 51.0 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 15560 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 13998 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1142 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 406 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 187 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 5.0 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 12 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 65649152 Equivalent to 3 /8s, 233 /16s and 186 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 64.5 APNIC AS Blocks 4608 - 4864, 7467 - 7722, 9216 - 10239, 17408 - 18431 APNIC Address Blocks 61/8, 202/7, 210/7 and 218/8 ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 69861 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 47377 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 5985 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1732 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 628 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 5.2 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 13 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 175815311 Equivalent to 10 /8s, 122 /16s and 186 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 80.6 ARIN AS Blocks 1 - 1876, 1902 - 2042, 2044 - 2046, 2048 - 2106 2138 - 2584, 2615 - 2772, 2823 - 2829, 2880 - 3153 3354 - 4607, 4865 - 5119, 5632 - 6655, 6912 - 7466 7723 - 8191, 10240 - 12287, 13312 - 15359 16384 - 17407, 18432 - 20479 ARIN Address Blocks 63/8, 64/7, 66/8, 199/8, 200/8, 204/6, 208/7 and 216/8 RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 15470 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 12207 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2698 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1349 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 499 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.9 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 18 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 89469667 Equivalent to 5 /8s, 85 /16s and 50 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 76.2 RIPE AS Blocks 1877 - 1901, 2042, 2047, 2107 - 2136, 2585 - 2614 2773 - 2822, 2830 - 2879, 3154 - 3353, 5377 - 5631 6656 - 6911, 8192 - 9215, 12288 - 13311, 15360 - 16383 RIPE Address Blocks 62/8, 193/8, 194/7, 212/7 and 217/8 APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 1221 2384 1189 Telstra 2764 436 139 connect.com.au pty ltd 703 416 250 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 2907 366 892 SINET Japan 4755 312 110 VSNL India 7657 217 12 The Internet Group Limited 9269 209 24 Hong Kong CTI 4618 207 56 Internet Thailand 4740 207 13 Ozemail 7545 205 7 TPG Internet Pty Ltd 7474 191 90 Optus Communications 4763 190 43 Telstra New Zealand 4766 175 619 KORnet Powered BY Korea Telec 4134 169 523 Data Communications Bureau 7586 135 10 Paradox Digital Pty. Ltd 3462 131 181 Data Communications Institute 4786 129 7 NetConnect Communications Pty 7496 124 9 Power Up 7617 122 46 One.Net Pty Ltd 9797 122 10 Asia Online Australia RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 3301 392 306 TeliaNet Sweden 702 367 490 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1270 333 432 UUNET Germany 1257 314 240 Swipnet AB 3215 204 180 RAIN 719 193 146 LANLINK 5515 193 359 Sonera Finland 680 188 864 Deutschef Forschurgsnetz 786 184 960 JANET IP Service 3320 166 462 Deutsche Telekom AG 1849 162 280 UUNET UK (formerly PIPEX) 1942 140 53 GIP Renater 2856 138 394 BTnet UK Regional network 517 134 137 Xlink 3303 128 277 Swisscom 5400 110 32 Concert Internet Plus Europea 1901 103 77 EUnet Austria 1267 98 986 IUnet S.p.A 3259 95 88 UUNET FRANCE 2830 83 30 UUNET UK (formerly PIPEX) ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 701 2608 3599 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1 1009 4612 BBN Planet 7018 913 3017 AT&T 7046 730 542 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1239 695 1589 Sprint ICM-Inria 2914 614 1289 Verio, Inc. 174 597 2806 PSINet Inc. 705 597 37 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 3561 565 1306 Cable & Wireless USA 2548 543 523 Digital Express Group, Inc. 3549 537 441 Frontier GlobalCenter 8013 523 64 PSINet Ltd. Canada 2551 504 345 NETCOM On-Line Communication 4293 449 57 Cable & Wireless USA 209 433 633 Qwest 271 424 271 BCnet Backbone 3908 386 280 Supernet, Inc. 6082 359 63 Management Analysis, Incorpor 8151 357 192 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 11371 324 49 Rhythms NetConnections Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 701 2608 3599 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1221 2384 1189 Telstra 1 1009 4612 BBN Planet 7018 913 3017 AT&T 7046 730 542 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1239 695 1589 Sprint ICM-Inria 2914 614 1289 Verio, Inc. 174 597 2806 PSINet Inc. 705 597 37 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 3561 565 1306 Cable & Wireless USA 2548 543 523 Digital Express Group, Inc. 3549 537 441 Frontier GlobalCenter 8013 523 64 PSINet Ltd. Canada 2551 504 345 NETCOM On-Line Communication 4293 449 57 Cable & Wireless USA 2764 436 139 connect.com.au pty ltd 209 433 633 Qwest 271 424 271 BCnet Backbone 703 416 250 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 3301 392 306 TeliaNet Sweden List of Unregistered ASNs (Global) ---------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 65535 PRIVATE 63.140.210.0/23 5696 WINSTAR 65535 PRIVATE 63.140.240.0/24 5696 WINSTAR 65535 PRIVATE 63.140.241.0/24 5696 WINSTAR 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.185.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.185.128.0/18 8143 Publicom Corp. 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.186.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.187.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.188.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.189.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.196.0/24 1800 SPRINT 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.209.0/24 1880 Stupi, house man's 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.210.0/24 1880 Stupi, house man's 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.214.0/24 1800 SPRINT 5757 UNALLOCATED 192.239.13.0/24 701 UUNET Technologies, 17411 UNALLOCATED 202.137.32.0/21 703 UUNET Technologies, 65500 PRIVATE 203.166.86.0/24 10084 Western Australian I 5757 UNALLOCATED 207.19.224.0/24 701 UUNET Technologies, Advertised IANA Reserved Addresses ---------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 39.96.40.224/30 14408 iCAIR 91.16.23.0/24 11770 Net56 Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:21 /9:4 /10:5 /11:10 /12:32 /13:61 /14:196 /15:306 /16:6807 /17:1025 /18:2025 /19:6319 /20:4543 /21:4291 /22:6497 /23:8428 /24:58495 /25:297 /26:399 /27:230 /28:220 /29:154 /30:321 /31:1 /32:221 Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 9:3 12:302 15:1 24:625 26:1 32:6 38:9 44:2 53:2 55:1 57:9 61:60 62:126 63:1637 64:1200 65:43 66:111 91:1 128:33 129:231 130:20 131:31 132:9 133:4 134:104 135:8 136:123 137:144 138:189 139:51 140:102 141:138 142:58 143:38 144:126 145:11 146:132 147:90 148:120 149:115 150:23 151:331 152:959 153:62 154:76 155:71 156:15 157:108 158:56 159:56 160:18 161:57 162:61 163:125 164:105 165:101 166:174 167:82 168:69 169:30 170:207 171:2 192:5419 193:1822 194:2013 195:756 196:394 198:3749 199:3419 200:1810 202:2448 203:5211 204:3572 205:2461 206:2817 207:2997 208:2881 209:3419 210:382 211:136 212:817 213:305 214:8 215:11 216:2747 217:97 End of report From cscora at dev.apnic.net Thu Feb 8 13:03:30 2001 From: cscora at dev.apnic.net (Routing Analysis) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 04:03:30 +1000 (EST) Subject: Weekly Routing Table Report Message-ID: <200102081803.EAA01248@dev.apnic.net> This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats at lists.apnic.net For a graphical representation, please see http://www.apnic.net/stats/bgp. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith . Routing Table Report 09 Feb, 2001 Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 100689 Origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 9892 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 3524 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1324 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 5.3 Max AS path length visible: 18 Illegal AS announcements present in the Routing Table: 15 Non-routable prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from the IANA Reserved Address blocks: 4 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 1207529448 Equivalent to 71 /8s, 249 /16s and 111 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 32.6 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 63.9 Percentage of available address space allocated: 51.0 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 15740 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 14063 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1147 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 413 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 190 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 5.0 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 13 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 69686953 Equivalent to 4 /8s, 39 /16s and 86 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 68.5 APNIC AS Blocks 4608 - 4864, 7467 - 7722, 9216 - 10239, 17408 - 18431 APNIC Address Blocks 61/8, 202/7, 210/7 and 218/8 ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 69573 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 47249 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 6028 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1756 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 632 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 5.2 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 14 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 176439809 Equivalent to 10 /8s, 132 /16s and 66 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 80.9 ARIN AS Blocks 1 - 1876, 1902 - 2042, 2044 - 2046, 2048 - 2106 2138 - 2584, 2615 - 2772, 2823 - 2829, 2880 - 3153 3354 - 4607, 4865 - 5119, 5632 - 6655, 6912 - 7466 7723 - 8191, 10240 - 12287, 13312 - 15359 16384 - 17407, 18432 - 20479 ARIN Address Blocks 63/8, 64/7, 66/8, 199/8, 200/8, 204/6, 208/7 and 216/8 RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 15361 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 12117 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2715 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1353 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 501 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.9 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 18 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 89815660 Equivalent to 5 /8s, 90 /16s and 122 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 76.5 RIPE AS Blocks 1877 - 1901, 2042, 2047, 2107 - 2136, 2585 - 2614 2773 - 2822, 2830 - 2879, 3154 - 3353, 5377 - 5631 6656 - 6911, 8192 - 9215, 12288 - 13311, 15360 - 16383 RIPE Address Blocks 62/8, 193/8, 194/7, 212/7 and 217/8 APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 1221 2446 1198 Telstra 2764 438 140 connect.com.au pty ltd 703 367 248 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 2907 366 892 SINET Japan 4755 311 112 VSNL India 4740 257 16 Ozemail 7657 215 12 The Internet Group Limited 9269 209 24 Hong Kong CTI 4618 207 56 Internet Thailand 7545 205 7 TPG Internet Pty Ltd 4538 199 972 China Education and Research 4763 190 43 Telstra New Zealand 7474 189 87 Optus Communications 4766 171 619 KORnet Powered BY Korea Telec 4134 169 523 Data Communications Bureau 3462 136 205 Data Communications Institute 7586 135 10 Paradox Digital Pty. Ltd 7539 129 83 Delegated to TWNIC for subseq 4786 128 7 NetConnect Communications Pty 7496 124 9 Power Up RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 3301 391 314 TeliaNet Sweden 702 380 588 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1257 320 240 Swipnet AB 1270 270 433 UUNET Germany 3215 207 182 RAIN 680 194 856 Deutschef Forschurgsnetz 719 191 146 LANLINK 786 184 960 JANET IP Service 5515 172 326 Sonera Finland 3320 167 462 Deutsche Telekom AG 1849 152 271 UUNET UK (formerly PIPEX) 1942 140 53 GIP Renater 2856 140 394 BTnet UK Regional network 517 134 137 Xlink 3303 128 277 Swisscom 5400 109 31 Concert Internet Plus Europea 1901 104 77 EUnet Austria 1267 98 986 IUnet S.p.A 2830 85 30 UUNET UK (formerly PIPEX) 3269 85 267 TELECOM ITALIA ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 701 2640 3588 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1 996 4572 BBN Planet 7018 911 3020 AT&T 7046 735 551 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1239 697 1580 Sprint ICM-Inria 705 635 39 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 2914 611 1272 Verio, Inc. 174 594 2794 PSINet Inc. 3561 569 1307 Cable & Wireless USA 3549 537 442 Frontier GlobalCenter 8013 521 68 PSINet Ltd. Canada 2551 502 345 NETCOM On-Line Communication 4293 473 58 Cable & Wireless USA 209 438 650 Qwest 2548 398 523 Digital Express Group, Inc. 3908 392 280 Supernet, Inc. 6082 358 63 Management Analysis, Incorpor 8151 358 192 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 271 349 269 BCnet Backbone 11371 324 49 Rhythms NetConnections Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 701 2640 3588 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1221 2446 1198 Telstra 1 996 4572 BBN Planet 7018 911 3020 AT&T 7046 735 551 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1239 697 1580 Sprint ICM-Inria 705 635 39 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 2914 611 1272 Verio, Inc. 174 594 2794 PSINet Inc. 3561 569 1307 Cable & Wireless USA 3549 537 442 Frontier GlobalCenter 8013 521 68 PSINet Ltd. Canada 2551 502 345 NETCOM On-Line Communication 4293 473 58 Cable & Wireless USA 209 438 650 Qwest 2764 438 140 connect.com.au pty ltd 2548 398 523 Digital Express Group, Inc. 3908 392 280 Supernet, Inc. 3301 391 314 TeliaNet Sweden 702 380 588 UUNET Technologies, Inc. List of Unregistered ASNs (Global) ---------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.185.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.185.128.0/18 8143 Publicom Corp. 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.186.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.187.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.188.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.189.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 61512 RESERVED 170.224.16.0/20 17232 Enhanced Network Ser 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.196.0/24 1800 SPRINT 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.209.0/24 1880 Stupi, house man's 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.210.0/24 1880 Stupi, house man's 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.214.0/24 1800 SPRINT 5757 UNALLOCATED 192.239.13.0/24 701 UUNET Technologies, 17411 UNALLOCATED 202.137.32.0/21 703 UUNET Technologies, 65500 PRIVATE 203.166.86.0/24 10084 Western Australian I 5757 UNALLOCATED 207.19.224.0/24 701 UUNET Technologies, Advertised IANA Reserved Addresses ---------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 39.96.40.224/30 14408 iCAIR 50.198.0.0/16 2548 Digital Express Group, Inc. 91.16.23.0/24 11770 Net56 103.22.7.0/24 9768 PubNet (Korea Telecom) Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:21 /9:4 /10:5 /11:10 /12:32 /13:61 /14:195 /15:307 /16:6859 /17:1040 /18:2041 /19:6339 /20:4637 /21:4310 /22:6515 /23:8469 /24:58457 /25:277 /26:349 /27:132 /28:101 /29:105 /30:291 /31:0 /32:132 Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 9:3 12:310 13:10 15:1 24:648 26:1 32:6 38:9 44:3 53:2 55:1 57:9 61:41 62:112 63:1677 64:1263 65:54 66:112 91:1 103:1 128:33 129:233 130:20 131:31 132:10 133:4 134:104 135:8 136:121 137:145 138:192 139:53 140:110 141:43 142:56 143:38 144:188 145:7 146:133 147:54 148:119 149:116 150:24 151:330 152:969 153:35 154:76 155:71 156:15 157:106 158:56 159:60 160:16 161:57 162:60 163:130 164:108 165:102 166:174 167:83 168:74 169:30 170:203 171:2 192:5413 193:1819 194:1996 195:773 196:394 198:3758 199:3459 200:1821 202:2427 203:5259 204:3552 205:2455 206:2799 207:2948 208:2925 209:3374 210:387 211:135 212:800 213:297 214:9 215:11 216:2678 217:105 End of report From cscora at dev.apnic.net Thu Feb 15 13:03:45 2001 From: cscora at dev.apnic.net (Routing Analysis) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:03:45 +1000 (EST) Subject: Weekly Routing Table Report Message-ID: <200102151803.EAA23485@dev.apnic.net> This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats at lists.apnic.net For a graphical representation, please see http://www.apnic.net/stats/bgp. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith . Routing Table Report 16 Feb, 2001 Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 101368 Origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 9972 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 3547 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1315 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 5.3 Max AS path length visible: 18 Illegal AS announcements present in the Routing Table: 18 Non-routable prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from the IANA Reserved Address blocks: 3 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 1226430539 Equivalent to 73 /8s, 25 /16s and 216 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 33.1 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 64.9 Percentage of available address space allocated: 51.0 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 15764 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 14074 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1151 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 416 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 189 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 5.0 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 15 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 70018996 Equivalent to 4 /8s, 44 /16s and 103 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 68.8 APNIC AS Blocks 4608 - 4864, 7467 - 7722, 9216 - 10239, 17408 - 18431 APNIC Address Blocks 61/8, 202/7, 210/7 and 218/8 ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 70049 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 47710 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 6078 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1760 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 626 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 5.2 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 13 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 177616408 Equivalent to 10 /8s, 150 /16s and 54 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 81.4 ARIN AS Blocks 1 - 1876, 1902 - 2042, 2044 - 2046, 2048 - 2106 2138 - 2584, 2615 - 2772, 2823 - 2829, 2880 - 3153 3354 - 4607, 4865 - 5119, 5632 - 6655, 6912 - 7466 7723 - 8191, 10240 - 12287, 13312 - 15359 16384 - 17407, 18432 - 20479 ARIN Address Blocks 63/8, 64/7, 66/8, 199/8, 200/8, 204/6, 208/7 and 216/8 RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 15537 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 12279 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2739 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1367 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 498 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.9 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 18 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 106915490 Equivalent to 6 /8s, 95 /16s and 102 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 91.0 RIPE AS Blocks 1877 - 1901, 2042, 2047, 2107 - 2136, 2585 - 2614 2773 - 2822, 2830 - 2879, 3154 - 3353, 5377 - 5631 6656 - 6911, 8192 - 9215, 12288 - 13311, 15360 - 16383 RIPE Address Blocks 62/8, 193/8, 194/7, 212/7 and 217/8 APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 1221 2423 1190 Telstra 2764 422 139 connect.com.au pty ltd 2907 376 909 SINET Japan 703 370 244 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 4755 303 108 VSNL India 4740 255 16 Ozemail 4618 211 56 Internet Thailand 9269 209 24 Hong Kong CTI 7545 204 7 TPG Internet Pty Ltd 4538 203 973 China Education and Research 7657 203 12 The Internet Group Limited 7474 194 87 Optus Communications 4763 187 43 Telstra New Zealand 4134 173 547 Data Communications Bureau 4766 171 619 KORnet Powered BY Korea Telec 3462 137 205 Data Communications Institute 4786 134 8 NetConnect Communications Pty 7586 132 10 Paradox Digital Pty. Ltd 7539 129 86 Delegated to TWNIC for subseq 7496 128 9 Power Up RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 702 417 606 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 3301 401 322 TeliaNet Sweden 1257 317 240 Swipnet AB 1270 270 433 UUNET Germany 3215 268 183 RAIN 680 200 888 Deutschef Forschurgsnetz 719 191 146 LANLINK 786 184 960 JANET IP Service 5515 168 318 Sonera Finland 3320 167 462 Deutsche Telekom AG 1849 152 271 UUNET UK (formerly PIPEX) 1942 140 53 GIP Renater 517 135 137 Xlink 2856 133 390 BTnet UK Regional network 3303 129 277 Swisscom 5400 111 31 Concert Internet Plus Europea 1901 104 77 EUnet Austria 1267 99 986 IUnet S.p.A 2830 87 30 UUNET UK (formerly PIPEX) 3269 86 275 TELECOM ITALIA ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 701 2691 3652 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1 1020 4583 BBN Planet 7018 924 3025 AT&T 7046 742 551 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 705 692 40 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1239 685 1580 Sprint ICM-Inria 8013 618 71 PSINet Ltd. Canada 2914 613 1272 Verio, Inc. 174 603 2810 PSINet Inc. 3561 570 1299 Cable & Wireless USA 3549 542 506 Frontier GlobalCenter 2551 500 345 NETCOM On-Line Communication 4293 475 58 Cable & Wireless USA 209 463 656 Qwest 271 437 273 BCnet Backbone 2548 395 523 Digital Express Group, Inc. 3908 393 280 Supernet, Inc. 8151 361 193 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 6082 359 63 Management Analysis, Incorpor 11371 324 49 Rhythms NetConnections Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 701 2691 3652 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1221 2423 1190 Telstra 1 1020 4583 BBN Planet 7018 924 3025 AT&T 7046 742 551 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 705 692 40 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1239 685 1580 Sprint ICM-Inria 8013 618 71 PSINet Ltd. Canada 2914 613 1272 Verio, Inc. 174 603 2810 PSINet Inc. 3561 570 1299 Cable & Wireless USA 3549 542 506 Frontier GlobalCenter 2551 500 345 NETCOM On-Line Communication 4293 475 58 Cable & Wireless USA 209 463 656 Qwest 271 437 273 BCnet Backbone 2764 422 139 connect.com.au pty ltd 702 417 606 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 3301 401 322 TeliaNet Sweden 2548 395 523 Digital Express Group, Inc. List of Unregistered ASNs (Global) ---------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.185.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.185.128.0/18 8143 Publicom Corp. 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.186.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.187.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.188.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.189.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.196.0/24 1800 SPRINT 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.209.0/24 1880 Stupi, house man's 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.210.0/24 1880 Stupi, house man's 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.214.0/24 1800 SPRINT 5757 UNALLOCATED 192.239.13.0/24 701 UUNET Technologies, 5429 UNALLOCATED 195.178.208.0/21 12690 MKS Autonomous Syste 17408 UNALLOCATED 202.133.224.0/19 3462 Data Communications 17411 UNALLOCATED 202.137.32.0/21 703 UUNET Technologies, 17408 UNALLOCATED 203.163.192.0/19 3462 Data Communications 65500 PRIVATE 203.166.86.0/24 10084 Western Australian I 5757 UNALLOCATED 207.19.224.0/24 701 UUNET Technologies, 65400 PRIVATE 213.161.78.0/24 6461 AboveNet Communicati Advertised IANA Reserved Addresses ---------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 39.96.40.224/30 14408 iCAIR 91.16.23.0/24 11770 Net56 103.22.7.0/24 9768 PubNet (Korea Telecom) Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:22 /9:4 /10:5 /11:10 /12:32 /13:62 /14:196 /15:308 /16:6865 /17:1047 /18:2047 /19:6352 /20:4667 /21:4339 /22:6531 /23:8537 /24:59027 /25:273 /26:346 /27:149 /28:108 /29:103 /30:203 /31:0 /32:135 Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 9:3 12:313 13:10 15:1 17:1 24:661 26:1 32:7 38:8 44:3 53:2 55:1 57:9 61:44 62:121 63:1749 64:1307 65:84 66:118 91:1 103:1 128:42 129:173 130:20 131:31 132:10 133:3 134:104 135:8 136:117 137:144 138:189 139:55 140:110 141:44 142:55 143:39 144:189 145:9 146:133 147:55 148:121 149:117 150:25 151:333 152:973 153:35 154:77 155:73 156:15 157:109 158:56 159:61 160:16 161:56 162:60 163:130 164:131 165:107 166:174 167:87 168:72 169:31 170:203 171:2 192:5403 193:1831 194:2016 195:779 196:391 198:3750 199:3432 200:1817 202:2402 203:5236 204:3728 205:2496 206:2765 207:3071 208:2948 209:3395 210:395 211:141 212:829 213:300 214:7 215:11 216:2731 217:114 End of report From cscora at dev.apnic.net Thu Feb 22 13:03:51 2001 From: cscora at dev.apnic.net (Routing Analysis) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 04:03:51 +1000 (EST) Subject: Weekly Routing Table Report Message-ID: <200102221803.EAA11765@dev.apnic.net> This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats at lists.apnic.net For a graphical representation, please see http://www.apnic.net/stats/bgp. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith . Routing Table Report 23 Feb, 2001 Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 101198 Origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 10071 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 3584 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1348 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 5.3 Max AS path length visible: 16 Illegal AS announcements present in the Routing Table: 14 Non-routable prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from the IANA Reserved Address blocks: 3 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 1243790830 Equivalent to 74 /8s, 34 /16s and 189 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 33.6 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 65.8 Percentage of available address space allocated: 51.0 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 15712 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 14048 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1162 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 420 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 193 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 5.0 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 15 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 69937651 Equivalent to 4 /8s, 43 /16s and 41 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 68.8 APNIC AS Blocks 4608 - 4864, 7467 - 7722, 9216 - 10239, 17408 - 18431 APNIC Address Blocks 61/8, 202/7, 210/7 and 218/8 ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 69818 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 47624 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 6144 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1786 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 637 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 5.2 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 13 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 194202724 Equivalent to 11 /8s, 147 /16s and 76 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 89.0 ARIN AS Blocks 1 - 1876, 1902 - 2042, 2044 - 2046, 2048 - 2106 2138 - 2584, 2615 - 2772, 2823 - 2829, 2880 - 3153 3354 - 4607, 4865 - 5119, 5632 - 6655, 6912 - 7466 7723 - 8191, 10240 - 12287, 13312 - 15359 16384 - 17407, 18432 - 20479 ARIN Address Blocks 63/8, 64/7, 66/8, 199/8, 200/8, 204/6, 208/7 and 216/8 RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 15654 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 12384 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2764 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1378 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 516 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.9 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 107480842 Equivalent to 6 /8s, 104 /16s and 7 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 91.5 RIPE AS Blocks 1877 - 1901, 2042, 2047, 2107 - 2136, 2585 - 2614 2773 - 2822, 2830 - 2879, 3154 - 3353, 5377 - 5631 6656 - 6911, 8192 - 9215, 12288 - 13311, 15360 - 16383 RIPE Address Blocks 62/8, 193/8, 194/7, 212/7 and 217/8 APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 1221 2394 1189 Telstra 2764 427 140 connect.com.au pty ltd 703 391 253 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 2907 376 909 SINET Japan 4755 305 111 VSNL India 4618 212 56 Internet Thailand 4740 209 13 Ozemail 9269 206 24 Hong Kong CTI 4538 205 948 China Education and Research 7545 203 7 TPG Internet Pty Ltd 7474 199 89 Optus Communications 7657 198 12 The Internet Group Limited 4763 187 43 Telstra New Zealand 4766 174 619 KORnet Powered BY Korea Telec 4134 173 557 Data Communications Bureau 3462 137 205 Data Communications Institute 4786 131 8 NetConnect Communications Pty 7539 131 86 Delegated to TWNIC for subseq 7586 131 10 Paradox Digital Pty. Ltd 7496 128 9 Power Up RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 702 413 607 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 3301 402 330 TeliaNet Sweden 1257 311 248 Swipnet AB 3215 273 183 RAIN 1270 271 450 UUNET Germany 680 203 889 Deutschef Forschurgsnetz 719 190 146 LANLINK 786 184 960 JANET IP Service 5515 168 318 Sonera Finland 3320 167 462 Deutsche Telekom AG 1849 154 271 UUNET UK (formerly PIPEX) 1942 139 53 GIP Renater 517 135 137 Xlink 2856 130 388 BTnet UK Regional network 3303 129 277 Swisscom 5400 113 31 Concert Internet Plus Europea 1901 104 77 EUnet Austria 1267 99 986 IUnet S.p.A 3269 86 275 TELECOM ITALIA 2830 85 30 UUNET UK (formerly PIPEX) ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 701 2666 3571 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1 1006 4565 BBN Planet 7018 932 3017 AT&T 705 739 41 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 7046 715 524 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1239 641 1551 Sprint ICM-Inria 2914 626 1271 Verio, Inc. 174 583 2799 PSINet Inc. 3561 573 1276 Cable & Wireless USA 3549 533 473 Frontier GlobalCenter 2551 498 345 NETCOM On-Line Communication 4293 471 57 Cable & Wireless USA 209 470 658 Qwest 2548 394 515 Digital Express Group, Inc. 3908 389 280 Supernet, Inc. 8151 364 204 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 271 349 270 BCnet Backbone 8013 339 63 PSINet Ltd. Canada 690 328 34 Merit Network 11371 325 49 Rhythms NetConnections Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /19 equiv Description 701 2666 3571 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1221 2394 1189 Telstra 1 1006 4565 BBN Planet 7018 932 3017 AT&T 705 739 41 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 7046 715 524 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1239 641 1551 Sprint ICM-Inria 2914 626 1271 Verio, Inc. 174 583 2799 PSINet Inc. 3561 573 1276 Cable & Wireless USA 3549 533 473 Frontier GlobalCenter 2551 498 345 NETCOM On-Line Communication 4293 471 57 Cable & Wireless USA 209 470 658 Qwest 2764 427 140 connect.com.au pty ltd 702 413 607 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 3301 402 330 TeliaNet Sweden 2548 394 515 Digital Express Group, Inc. 703 391 253 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 3908 389 280 Supernet, Inc. List of Unregistered ASNs (Global) ---------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 65535 PRIVATE 62.4.68.96/27 6461 AboveNet Communicati 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.185.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.185.128.0/18 8143 Publicom Corp. 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.186.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.187.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.188.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 2027 UNALLOCATED 150.189.0.0/16 10530 Interpacket Group, I 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.196.0/24 1800 SPRINT 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.209.0/24 1880 Stupi, house man's 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.210.0/24 1880 Stupi, house man's 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.214.0/24 1800 SPRINT 5757 UNALLOCATED 192.239.13.0/24 701 UUNET Technologies, 65500 PRIVATE 203.166.86.0/24 10084 Western Australian I 5757 UNALLOCATED 207.19.224.0/24 701 UUNET Technologies, Advertised IANA Reserved Addresses ---------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 39.96.40.224/30 14408 iCAIR 91.16.23.0/24 11770 Net56 103.22.7.0/24 9768 PubNet (Korea Telecom) Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:23 /9:4 /10:5 /11:10 /12:32 /13:62 /14:196 /15:306 /16:6866 /17:1062 /18:2040 /19:6379 /20:4714 /21:4339 /22:6578 /23:8567 /24:58739 /25:271 /26:345 /27:147 /28:110 /29:83 /30:178 /31:0 /32:142 Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 9:3 12:316 13:10 15:1 17:1 24:660 26:1 32:7 38:8 44:3 53:2 55:1 57:8 61:42 62:121 63:1763 64:1361 65:112 66:120 91:1 103:1 128:38 129:115 130:20 131:31 132:10 133:3 134:108 135:8 136:16 137:112 138:288 139:54 140:105 141:45 142:56 143:42 144:193 145:9 146:133 147:92 148:122 149:117 150:25 151:334 152:974 153:35 154:12 155:73 156:18 157:106 158:55 159:78 160:16 161:56 162:60 163:131 164:132 165:113 166:173 167:87 168:81 169:31 170:201 171:2 192:5370 193:1841 194:2019 195:793 196:389 198:3711 199:3424 200:1835 202:2425 203:5183 204:3672 205:2450 206:2735 207:2984 208:2934 209:3295 210:394 211:146 212:835 213:308 214:9 215:11 216:2811 217:113 End of report From cjw at remarque.org Tue Feb 27 17:48:53 2001 From: cjw at remarque.org (CJW) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:48:53 -0800 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting Message-ID: <200102272248.OAA21394@pox.remarque.org> I am thinking about having an RTMA working group meeting at the next ARIN meeting (April 1-4). If we were to meet what would you want to talk about? I will come up with some ideas, but I thought you all might have some as well. Thanks ---Cathy From billd at cait.wustl.edu Wed Feb 28 09:42:50 2001 From: billd at cait.wustl.edu (Bill Darte) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:42:50 -0600 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting Message-ID: I think it would be fun(?) to look at the output of the routing table info forwarded to RTMA by Phillip Smith..... We could interpret an individual(new consolidated) report and then look at the change over the last year and discuss the trends which are apparent. Bill Darte AC > -----Original Message----- > From: CJW [mailto:cjw at remarque.org] > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:49 PM > To: rtma at arin.net > Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting > > > I am thinking about having an RTMA working group meeting at the > next ARIN meeting (April 1-4). If we were to meet what would > you want to talk about? I will come up with some ideas, but > I thought you all might have some as well. > > Thanks > ---Cathy > > From smarcus at genuity.com Wed Feb 28 09:43:43 2001 From: smarcus at genuity.com (J. Scott Marcus) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:43:43 -0500 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010228094343.009e8c70@pobox3.genuity.com> Perhaps one of us could also walk the group thru the analysis of routing table and address allocation data that Geoff Huston presented at the IETF in December? It is conceivable that Geoff will attend the ASO meeting; if not, he might agree to have someone (possibly yours truly) present for him. Cheers, - Scott At 08:42 02/28/2001 -0600, Bill Darte wrote: >I think it would be fun(?) to look at the output of the routing table info >forwarded to RTMA by Phillip Smith..... We could interpret an individual(new >consolidated) report and then look at the change over the last year and >discuss the trends which are apparent. >Bill Darte >AC > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CJW [mailto:cjw at remarque.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:49 PM >> To: rtma at arin.net >> Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting >> >> >> I am thinking about having an RTMA working group meeting at the >> next ARIN meeting (April 1-4). If we were to meet what would >> you want to talk about? I will come up with some ideas, but >> I thought you all might have some as well. From lhoward at uu.net Wed Feb 28 10:19:55 2001 From: lhoward at uu.net (Lee Howard) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:19:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting In-Reply-To: <200102272248.OAA21394@pox.remarque.org> Message-ID: It might be appropriate to discuss the four-part "Imminent death of the Internet predicted" presentation from NANOG, in which the rise in number of routes is expected to outstrip the available memory/processing power at some indeterminate future point. RTMA discussion should focus on ways ARIN could help ameliorate the situation, rather than strictly operational possibilities which would better fit under NANOG. The presentation I'm talking about was "Global Routing System Scaling Issues" which was a panel moderated by Cathy Wittbrodt. Summary and slides available at http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0102/witt.html Or we can talk about the issues here. Lee On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, CJW wrote: > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:48:53 -0800 > From: CJW > To: rtma at arin.net > Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting > > I am thinking about having an RTMA working group meeting at the > next ARIN meeting (April 1-4). If we were to meet what would > you want to talk about? I will come up with some ideas, but > I thought you all might have some as well. > > Thanks > ---Cathy > > From henk at ripe.net Wed Feb 28 11:07:36 2001 From: henk at ripe.net (Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:07:36 +0100 (CET) Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010228094343.009e8c70@pobox3.genuity.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, J. Scott Marcus wrote: > Perhaps one of us could also walk the group thru the analysis of routing > table and address allocation data that Geoff Huston presented at the IETF > in December? It is conceivable that Geoff will attend the ASO meeting; if > not, he might agree to have someone (possibly yours truly) present for him. If collection and analysis of routing data are appropriate, then I can organize a talk about the RIS. We are still looking for a suitable site to place a route collector in the ARIN region as well as input to what queries/graphs people like to see. This would be something to discuss. The talk would be similar to the presentation that we gave at Apricot this week, but with fresh, new data added. The same goes for the RIPE NCC TTM: if there is interest in performance measurements between sites in the ARIN region, then I can say something about that as well. Henk > > Cheers, > - Scott > > > At 08:42 02/28/2001 -0600, Bill Darte wrote: > >I think it would be fun(?) to look at the output of the routing table info > >forwarded to RTMA by Phillip Smith..... We could interpret an individual(new > >consolidated) report and then look at the change over the last year and > >discuss the trends which are apparent. > >Bill Darte > >AC > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: CJW [mailto:cjw at remarque.org] > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:49 PM > >> To: rtma at arin.net > >> Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting > >> > >> > >> I am thinking about having an RTMA working group meeting at the > >> next ARIN meeting (April 1-4). If we were to meet what would > >> you want to talk about? I will come up with some ideas, but > >> I thought you all might have some as well. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal at ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/henk Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As long as you don't tell your friends how I played the hand, then I won't tell my friends how you defended it. (Anonymous) From randy at psg.com Wed Feb 28 12:06:37 2001 From: randy at psg.com (Randy Bush) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:06:37 -0800 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting References: <200102272248.OAA21394@pox.remarque.org> Message-ID: > It might be appropriate to discuss the four-part "Imminent death of the > Internet predicted" presentation from NANOG, in which the rise in > number of routes is expected to outstrip the available memory/processing > power at some indeterminate future point. you might remember tli's point that the growth is sub-moore. hence chicken little should focus on other aspects, e.g. convergence time. randy From cjw at remarque.org Wed Feb 28 12:40:02 2001 From: cjw at remarque.org (Cathy Wittbrodt) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:40:02 -0800 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting In-Reply-To: Message from "J. Scott Marcus" of "Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:43:43 EST." <3.0.5.32.20010228094343.009e8c70@pobox3.genuity.com> Message-ID: <200102281740.JAA00788@pox.remarque.org> Scott, I am putting together a similar panel than the one I had at NANOG. It will include Geoff's stuff. Did you get my email on that? I think it would be redundant to do it at rtma as well. Unless what you're saying is that we should just move it to rtma instead. Or is it that that it's just one track and everyone will be at rtma? I am not sure how things will be set up. BTW, Bill Woodcock has agreed to present if Geoff isn't there. Thanks! ---CJ From: "J. Scott Marcus" Subject: RE: RTMA Working Group Meeting Perhaps one of us could also walk the group thru the analysis of routing table and address allocation data that Geoff Huston presented at the IETF in December? It is conceivable that Geoff will attend the ASO meeting; if not, he might agree to have someone (possibly yours truly) present for him. Cheers, - Scott At 08:42 02/28/2001 -0600, Bill Darte wrote: >I think it would be fun(?) to look at the output of the routing table info >forwarded to RTMA by Phillip Smith..... We could interpret an individual(new >consolidated) report and then look at the change over the last year and >discuss the trends which are apparent. >Bill Darte >AC > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CJW [mailto:cjw at remarque.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:49 PM >> To: rtma at arin.net >> Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting >> >> >> I am thinking about having an RTMA working group meeting at the >> next ARIN meeting (April 1-4). If we were to meet what would >> you want to talk about? I will come up with some ideas, but >> I thought you all might have some as well. From cjw at remarque.org Wed Feb 28 12:45:13 2001 From: cjw at remarque.org (Cathy Wittbrodt) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:45:13 -0800 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting In-Reply-To: Message from Lee Howard of "Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:19:55 EST." Message-ID: <200102281745.JAA00843@pox.remarque.org> Lee, We're going to have a similar panel at the ARIN meeting. I am getting the impression that it may be best suited for the rtma session Thanks! ---CJ From: Lee Howard Subject: Re: RTMA Working Group Meeting It might be appropriate to discuss the four-part "Imminent death of the Internet predicted" presentation from NANOG, in which the rise in number of routes is expected to outstrip the available memory/processing power at some indeterminate future point. RTMA discussion should focus on ways ARIN could help ameliorate the situation, rather than strictly operational possibilities which would better fit under NANOG. The presentation I'm talking about was "Global Routing System Scaling Issues" which was a panel moderated by Cathy Wittbrodt. Summary and slides available at http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0102/witt.html Or we can talk about the issues here. Lee On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, CJW wrote: > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:48:53 -0800 > From: CJW > To: rtma at arin.net > Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting > > I am thinking about having an RTMA working group meeting at the > next ARIN meeting (April 1-4). If we were to meet what would > you want to talk about? I will come up with some ideas, but > I thought you all might have some as well. > > Thanks > ---Cathy > > From smarcus at genuity.com Wed Feb 28 12:44:30 2001 From: smarcus at genuity.com (J. Scott Marcus) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:44:30 -0500 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting In-Reply-To: <200102281740.JAA00788@pox.remarque.org> References: <3.0.5.32.20010228094343.009e8c70@pobox3.genuity.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010228124430.02a805f0@pobox3.genuity.com> At 09:40 02/28/2001 -0800, Cathy Wittbrodt wrote: > >I am putting together a similar panel than the one I had at NANOG. >It will include Geoff's stuff. Did you get my email on that? I >think it would be redundant to do it at rtma as well. Unless what >you're saying is that we should just move it to rtma instead. Or >is it that that it's just one track and everyone will be at rtma? >I am not sure how things will be set up. BTW, Bill Woodcock has >agreed to present if Geoff isn't there... Oops! Thanks for the reminder, I was forgetting. :-( I agree, if the other panel will be for the ARIN public policy meeting as a whole, then there is no point in any redundant coverage within RTMA. As it happens, I guess that some of the RTMA logical content spills over into broader applicability and interest. Sorry, - Scott From cjw at remarque.org Wed Feb 28 12:49:37 2001 From: cjw at remarque.org (Cathy Wittbrodt) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:49:37 -0800 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting In-Reply-To: Message from "Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)" of "Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:07:36 +0100." Message-ID: <200102281749.JAA00900@pox.remarque.org> Henk, How long would you need on the agenda? ---CJ From: "Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)" Subject: RE: RTMA Working Group Meeting On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, J. Scott Marcus wrote: > Perhaps one of us could also walk the group thru the analysis of routing > table and address allocation data that Geoff Huston presented at the IETF > in December? It is conceivable that Geoff will attend the ASO meeting; if > not, he might agree to have someone (possibly yours truly) present for him. If collection and analysis of routing data are appropriate, then I can organize a talk about the RIS. We are still looking for a suitable site to place a route collector in the ARIN region as well as input to what queries/graphs people like to see. This would be something to discuss. The talk would be similar to the presentation that we gave at Apricot this week, but with fresh, new data added. The same goes for the RIPE NCC TTM: if there is interest in performance measurements between sites in the ARIN region, then I can say something about that as well. Henk > > Cheers, > - Scott > > > At 08:42 02/28/2001 -0600, Bill Darte wrote: > >I think it would be fun(?) to look at the output of the routing table info > >forwarded to RTMA by Phillip Smith..... We could interpret an individual(new > >consolidated) report and then look at the change over the last year and > >discuss the trends which are apparent. > >Bill Darte > >AC > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: CJW [mailto:cjw at remarque.org] > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:49 PM > >> To: rtma at arin.net > >> Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting > >> > >> > >> I am thinking about having an RTMA working group meeting at the > >> next ARIN meeting (April 1-4). If we were to meet what would > >> you want to talk about? I will come up with some ideas, but > >> I thought you all might have some as well. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal at ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/henk Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As long as you don't tell your friends how I played the hand, then I won't tell my friends how you defended it. (Anonymous) From cjw at remarque.org Wed Feb 28 12:51:05 2001 From: cjw at remarque.org (Cathy Wittbrodt) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:51:05 -0800 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting In-Reply-To: Message from Randy Bush of "Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:06:37 PST." Message-ID: <200102281751.JAA00919@pox.remarque.org> Randy, Since I am not entirely sure that TLi will be at the ARIN meeting would it be possible for you to update his slides and present on the panel? It would be most helpful to get your input. If Tony is there then maybe you can do something jointly? Thanks ---CJ From: Randy Bush Subject: Re: RTMA Working Group Meeting > It might be appropriate to discuss the four-part "Imminent death of the > Internet predicted" presentation from NANOG, in which the rise in > number of routes is expected to outstrip the available memory/processing > power at some indeterminate future point. you might remember tli's point that the growth is sub-moore. hence chicken little should focus on other aspects, e.g. convergence time. randy From randy at psg.com Wed Feb 28 12:53:53 2001 From: randy at psg.com (Randy Bush) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:53:53 -0800 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting References: <200102281751.JAA00919@pox.remarque.org> Message-ID: very schedule-dependent. i have non-arin meetings for half of arin. and tli, being local, might do best at playing tli. after all, he's character cast. :-) randy From cjw at remarque.org Wed Feb 28 13:30:13 2001 From: cjw at remarque.org (Cathy Wittbrodt) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:30:13 -0800 Subject: RTMA Working Group Meeting In-Reply-To: Message from Tony Li of "Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:02:09 PST." <15005.15649.535994.373301@alpha-tli.procket.com> Message-ID: <200102281830.KAA01228@pox.remarque.org> Tony, The question is whether ARIN should be doing things like changing the minimum allocation again in light of the routing table growth? We're also trying to judge whether moving it to a /20 has had any negative impacts on routing table growth. ---CJ From: Tony Li Subject: Re: RTMA Working Group Meeting I'm willing to attend if there is actually any outcome (i.e., does ARIN need to change policies? not as far as I can tell). While Randy is correct that growth is sub-Moore at this point, I really did try to stress the point that the current trend will take us over Moore and that we either need conservation mechanisms or change to v6. Tony Cathy Wittbrodt writes: | | Randy, | | Since I am not entirely sure that TLi will be at the ARIN meeting | would it be possible for you to update his slides and present on the | panel? It would be most helpful to get your input. If Tony is there | then maybe you can do something jointly? | | Thanks | ---CJ | | | From: Randy Bush | Subject: Re: RTMA Working Group Meeting | > It might be appropriate to discuss the four-part "Imminent death of the | > Internet predicted" presentation from NANOG, in which the rise in | > number of routes is expected to outstrip the available memory/processing | > power at some indeterminate future point. | | you might remember tli's point that the growth is sub-moore. hence chicken | little should focus on other aspects, e.g. convergence time. | | randy