[ppml] "Recommended Practices" procedure
David Williamson
dlw+arin at tellme.com
Thu Jun 29 11:57:06 EDT 2006
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On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 08:11:35AM -0700, Azinger, Marla wrote: > I hear many comments about "the slippery sloap". And "make them get PI if they want to multihome". However, my customer's dont want PI. Just because one person finds this as an ideal solution does not mean everyone will accept this solution. > > Also, a /48 is not a gigantic hole in the filtering opposed to /32. And to open up /48 for PI only is an unbalanced policy. If I had known people would be using PI as an excuse not to let Upstreams multihome with V6 I would have advocated to shut down that policy proposal. I support PI but for poeple to turn around and force feed PI is not acceptable. How do you propose to do this? Should large service providers maintain a (likely very long) list of all known /48 PA multihomers? They could then filter on the /32 edge except for the known PI space, plus all the exceptions. That's completely impractical in the real world. Alternatively, you can simply move the minimum size edge from /32 to /48 globally. That's probably also operationally impossible, for the moment. (The routing slot argument, which I don't usually buy, is an easy one to make in this case.) At some future point, /48 filtering will be a practical possibility. That time will be determined by business pressures on ISPs. Heck, I think the ISP crowd had it backwards in their objections to PI space. Let people get whatever space (v4 or v6) they can qualify for. ARIN makes no promises about the routability of any block. If you qualify for a block that's too small for current ISP routing policy to carry, that's unfortunate. Perhaps we'll be able to route your /26 or /56 in the future. Again, market forces will make things work out for the general good, or at least the general good of the ISP's shareholders. I will again reiterate that this is a business issue, not a policy one. Routing best practices are frequently organization specific, depending on hardware, clue level, and greed, among other variables. I'll agree with Randy: I'd rather not work and have money fall from the sky. :) -David
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