IP Space

I think what this discussion is about is a policy that has been suspended by
ARIN.  Included below is the verbage I received brom ARIN.  I think it
applies to this thread.



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CLIP FROM ANOTHER NOTE FROM ARIN

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FYI.  I asked ARIN about their policy and how they were handling the many
providers who have SSL websites, and their reply along with my question to
them is included below.  This should address your concern about "restricting
the NEW Economy's development" below.



Here is the verbage of this web page:
http://www.arin.net/announcements/webhosting.html



Name-based Web Hosting Policy Suspended

ARIN's name-based web hosting policy that was enacted on 7 July, 2000, has
been suspended. The policy was discussed at the open public policy meeting
at ARIN VI in Herndon, VA, and included the comments made on ARIN's public
mailing lists in the months leading up to the meeting. As a result of these
discussions, ARIN's Board of Trustees suspended the policy pending further
review by a committee.



A mailing list has been established for this committee and it will be
moderated by ARIN's advisory council. The committee list is open to all
interested parties. Those interested in subscribing to this mailing list and
participating in the committee's activities may do so by subscribing to the
Virtual Web Hosting mailing list ( vwp-request at arin.net ). See
http://www.arin.net/members/mailing.htm for more information.





-----Original Message-----

From: Network Modification Role Account [mailto:netmod at arin.net]

Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:07 AM

To: DHerpin at c3com.com

Subject: Re: [ARIN-20001017.1573] Host Headers (Virtual Name hosting)





Hello,



    Please review the change to web hosting guidelines at:

http://www.arin.net/announcements/webhosting.html

If you have any further questions please contact us.



Regards,

Scott Whipple

Registration Services

American Registry for Internet Numbers

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> 

> I read your policy about IP-Based web hosting and have been hearing a

> recurring complaint.  SSL will not work without a static IP Address.  How

> will ARIN's policy address those web servers and providers who have a
large

> percentage of SSL web sites?

> 







-----Original Message-----

From: AveHost.com Staff [mailto:info at avehost.com]

Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 8:17 PM

To: Ted Pavlic

Cc: Policy at Arin. Net

Subject: RE: IP Space







Ted:



Just keep in mind that you will still need IP's for those customers that

want and need to use SSL, which is currently about half of our customers.

You see, ARIN is effectively restricting ecommerce whether they realize it

or not by limiting IP allocations for hosting.  Congratulations ARIN, the

NEW Economy's development just might be slowed!  This almost smells like an

old KGB clandestine operation to stifle the West's progress!



AveHost.com Staff

AveHost.com, a service of RegSearch International

201-840-7311



-----Original Message-----

From: policy-request at arin.net [mailto:policy-request at arin.net]On Behalf

Of Ted Pavlic

Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 1:43 PM

To: policy at arin.net; RTS

Subject: Re: IP Space





http://www.arin.net/announcements/name_based_hosting.html



I hope that helps.



All the best --

Ted



----- Original Message -----

From: "RTS" <rts at rdr.net>

To: <policy at arin.net>

Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 8:00 PM

Subject: IP Space





> I saw on Arin's page last week or so a link to both Microsoft and Apache

> pages for help on named based virtual hosting.

>

> Does anyone know where that is??

>

>

> Randy

>

>





-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Lambert [mailto:Clay at exodus.net]
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:37 PM
To: info at avehost.com; 'David R Huberman'; susan at lh.net
Cc: 'Policy at Arin. Net'
Subject: RE: IP Space


Hi David,



Actually, I addressed it in march during the forum, and it was a strong

justification point for approving the policy.  Simply stated, if there are

exceptions they must be documentented. Exceptions must not be vendor

specific, and only protocol specific. And, as http1.1 is the accepted

protocol in this discussion, http 1.0 is excluded from the protocol

exception criteria.



-Clayton Lambert

Exodus Communications



-----Original Message-----

From: policy-request at arin.net [mailto:policy-request at arin.net]On Behalf

Of AveHost.com Staff

Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 2:42 AM

To: David R Huberman; susan at lh.net

Cc: Policy at Arin. Net

Subject: RE: IP Space







Susan:



Below is a previous posting just last month on this mailist, I quote:



">

> Can I tell all my customers to call you when their online business drops

> by almost 50%.  By the way, can you use a shared IP for secure server

> certificates?



No, you can't, which is why there are exceptions to the policy.  Granted

there isn't a specific exception for SSL, which I think is one place where

the group (myself included) erred in Calgary last March."







AveHost.com Staff

AveHost.com, a service of RegSearch International

201-840-7311