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At 02:52 PM 7/3/97 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote:
>I'll overlook the fact that you have a number of "it is generally recognized"
>statements that are, in fact, *not* generally recognized, and subject to
>dispute.  In particular, I found principle number 3 a bit hard to swallow,
>given that InterNIC, APNIC, and RIPE were all (the last I heard) using
>essentially the same criteria.

May I offer in rebuttal the following excerpt from the full email from
RIPE, which is included below the excerpt for integrity purposes:

"Together with this first assignment we will allocate an amount of
address space to your registry. To be fair to all registries this
amount is the same for each new registry. We will allocate a /19 range
of IP numbers to you. You can announce this prefix to your transit
provider. But please note that you can not make any assignments from
this range without approval from the RIPE NCC, as long as your
Assignment window is 0."

-----full text of email from RIPE-----

Posted-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:13:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: NCC Role Account <ncc at ripe.net>
To: Larry Vaden <vaden at texoma.net>
Subject: Registry us.texoma Procedures
X-Organization: RIPE Network Coordination Centre
X-Phone: +31 20 535 4444
X-Fax: +31 20 535 4445
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:13:37 +0200
Sender: ncc at ripe.net


Dear Larry Vaden,

We have added 

	us.texoma

to the list of Local Internet Registries with the following particulars:

regid:       us.texoma
org:         Internet Texoma Inc.
type:        PROVIDER
community:   The registry will serve customers of Internet Texoma Inc,
community:   an internet service provider in the United States which
community:   serves public and private customers.Internet Texoma Inc.
community:   is prepared to serve those not buying any other service
community:   from Internet Texoma Inc.
address:     Internet Texoma Inc.
address:     120 W Mulberry
address:     US-75090 Sherman, TX
country:     US CA MX
admin-c:     Larry Vaden (LV21)
tech-c:      Linda Avila (LA141-RIPE)
phone:       +001 903 813 4500
fax-no:      +001 903 868 8551
e-mail:      registry at texoma.net
remark:      multi-homed ISP
lst-localir: registry at texoma.net
lst-provs:   info at texoma.net
lst-contrib: vaden at texoma.net
bill-addr:   Internet Texoma Inc.
bill-addr:   attn:  Linda Avila, Exec VP
bill-addr:   120 W Mulberry
bill-addr:   US-75090 Sherman, TX
bill-mail:   avila at texoma.net
bill-ref:    PO#970616A
bill-vatno:  N/A US Corporation
bill-proto:  E-MAIL ASCII
bill-categ:  SMALL
bill-scheme: HALF-YEARLY
bill-remark: RIPE Invoice
reg-ack:     LONG


The public part of this has been published in 

	ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/registries/us.texoma  

It is also accessible by by gopher, www and telnet. 

Regarding the delegation of address space and related matters, please
contact <hostmaster at ripe.net>.  Please be sure to include your registry ID
us.texoma in all messages you send to us, in the following format:

X-NCC-RegID: us.texoma

This line can be placed in the message header, but also in the message body.

If you have sent requests in the past, which received no service,
please re-send these requests.


To make you familiar with the registry procedures and to provide
additional support in your start up phase, we currently follow a
"handholding" procedure for all new registries.

Each new registry gets a so called assignment window (AW).
This AW is initially 0. This means that you can not make any
assignment without prior approval from the RIPE NCC.

Please send all requests for address space to the RIPE NCC for prior
approval. We would like to see ripe-141 (European IP Network Number
Request Form) completed for every single request for address space
that you receive. This applies to requests from your customers as well
as for address space you may need for your internal network.  We
always expect you to include your own comments and evaluation results
in every request you send to us.  We will then approve the request or
recommend the assignment of a different amount of address space.

This procedure will only last for a short period of time until we are
both confident that you are familiar with the registration procedures.
We will then increase your assignment window so that you can make
assignments up to certain size yourself.

For the first request we receive from your registry we will assign the
address space. This means we will update the database and inform you
about the address space we have assigned. 

Together with this first assignment we will allocate an amount of
address space to your registry. To be fair to all registries this
amount is the same for each new registry. We will allocate a /19 range
of IP numbers to you. You can announce this prefix to your transit
provider. But please note that you can not make any assignments from
this range without approval from the RIPE NCC, as long as your
Assignment window is 0.

Once you run out of the address space we delegated to you, we will quickly
delegate additional address space after a review of the assignment
information in the RIPE database. The size of the next delegation will
depend on your rate of assignments and estimates of future needs. 


In order to further aid you in getting familiar to registry
procedures, the RIPE NCC offers Local IR Training Courses (roughly 2
per month, all over Europe). It is recommended for new Local IR staff
to follow one. Attendance of the training courses (lunch included) is
free, not including travel etc.
More information on training courses can be found on our Website at
http://www.ripe.net/lir/courses/; dates of new courses
are also announced on the 'local-ir' mailinglist.

If you have any further questions about the formal arrangements and 
billing, please do not hesitate to contact <billing at ripe.net>.
Please contact <ncc at ripe.net> whenever something needs to be
changed to your registry data.
All technical and registry questions are handled by <hostmaster at ripe.net>.

Kind regards,

Mandy Jonkers
RIPE NCC


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Larry Vaden <vaden at texoma.net>