Good intent and somewhat competent

Karl Denninger karl at MCS.NET
Sun Jan 19 22:06:54 EST 1997


>
> On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Karl Denninger wrote:
>
> > Vhen vendors drive BCPs and policies to protect the sale of their own
> > product which won't live *WITHOUT* those documents, I Don't think this is
> > off-topic in the least.
> >
> > There's no conspiracy here -- CISCO and the backbone engineers have AGREED
> > IN THE PAST that the netwrok wouldn't have survived DUE TO THESE LIMITS
> > if CIDR wasn't adopted.
> >
> > That CISCO then went on to produce TWO product lines which incorporated the
> > same flaw in their design is a fact.
>
> Karl,
> Please explain to me how Cisco is to blame for no other routing vendor
> being able to develop a product that can beat Cisco?  If there is some
> magical router out there that can handle 10,000,000 route entries, why
> haven't we heard about it?  I think there is a very strong financial
> incentive to develop one, since I am sure that Cisco has sold well over
> 1000 7500 series routers in the past 2 years.  If someone where to develop
> something that would beat it, and would sell for $100,000, that's
> $100Million in sales just for NAP routers, and we haven't even considered
> the huge corporate Intranet market.  There are 100s of firms in NYC that
> use 7500 series routers internally to connect lans, and maybe one or two
> remote offices.
> Maybe Cisco isn't lying to us all, maybe aggregation is a good idea no
> matter what hardware the backbones are using.
>
>       ________
>       \______/                        Jeremiah Kristal

Well gee, what do you call NETSTAR?

And why, pray tell, did they go on to develop and produce what they did
(which ASCEND noticed rather quickly)?

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