"leasing" the addresses

Jim Fleming JimFleming at unety.net
Thu Feb 27 20:28:25 EST 1997


On Thursday, February 27, 1997 7:27 PM, Stan Barber[SMTP:sob at academ.com] wrote:
@ > @ > BTW -  Who does own the addresses ?
@ > @ 
@ > @ Probably the same folks that owns the air we breath:-)
@ > @ 
@ > @ The IANA is the ultimate steward of the address space. You'd need to query
@ > @ them about the owner. I have been around the Internet for years and in all
@ > @ that time the important thing about addresses is their uniqueness, not the
@ > @ ultimate owner. 
@ > @ 
@ > 
@ > That is where we disagree...:-)
@ > 
@ > I would like to see the legal proof...
@ 
@ I am not sure what legal proof you are seeking. Is it proof that IANA
@ is the ultimate steward of the address space? Please clarify so I don't 
@ misunderstand.
@

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@ > 
@ > @ One of the important things about ARIN is that it is possible that the folks
@ > @ who benefit from this registration effort get to be involved in the stewartship
@ > @ role more directly. This has not been the case in the Americas, like it has
@ > @ in other  parts of the world.
@ > @ 
@ > @ 
@ > 
@ > Yes...that is also an attribute of the AlterNIC, eDNS, Root 64, etc.
@ 
@ As far as I  know, none of those efforts can directly trace their roots 
@ back to SRI-NIC. The ARIN effort can. Of course, I could be very much
@ in the dark about the history of these other efforts. If there is another
@ list on which such things are discussed or if someone can privately mail me
@ a list of URLs that I can read about it, I'd be grateful.
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@ > I am concerned that the people launching ARIN and the
@ > people supporting ARIN have not been directly involved in
@ > the cloning of any NICs.
@ 
@ I am not sure what you mean there. The NSI folks were operating a NIC prior
@ to being awarded the InterNIC arrangement. Can you clarify for this
@ claim for me? 
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@ > Why do they all of a sudden want to clone part of the NIC ?
@ 
@ I don't think it was sudden, but what is sudden to one person is slow to 
@ others.
@ 
@ > Why does that happen to coincide with making NSI look
@ > like a 3 TLD domain registry ?
@ 
@ Obviously, I am in no position to speak on behalf of NSI about this.
@ 
@ However, I think you are really meaning the registration function of 
@ the InterNIC operated by NSI, right? Without the NSF cooperative agreement,
@ NSI could have been operating a registration function. Someone else would
@ have been doing it.
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