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On Thursday, February 27, 1997 3:49 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks at wrote:
@ On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:30:50 CST, Jim Fleming said:
@ > The Internet is also a very large place. Can you
@ > estimate how many people know about ARIN,
@ > how many people care about it, and furthermore,
@ > how many are going to do as you suggest...?
@ OK Jim.  Put your money where your mouth is.  If you *had* the ability
@ to edit anything on the ARIN webserver, what would you do, and what would
@ be the likely opinion of the ARIN organizers of your changes?  Remember
@ that much of what is on that server consitututes "official statements of
@ position", and as such, the owners do *not* want anybody (including Jim
@ Fleming, or Valdis Kletnieks, or Scott Bradner, or *anybody*) from editing
@ it before they have a chance to read it over and make sure that what
@ the person is changing is in fact what the owners wanted to say.

It is one thing to edit what "looks" like a finished web site
and another to edit a collaborative document.

This mail could be considered a collaborative document,
it contains your words and my words.

We could have obtained this by requesting a copy from
the server to "edit". Then we could check it back in.

The wiki-web has a different model. It is obvious to
the people reading the document that it is a work
in progress.

@ In fact, I'm willing to bet a large pizza with your choice of 3 toppings
@ that such review is a good portion of why it takes Kim so long to update
@ the server at each iteration.  Kim? Care to comment?

I have no idea why ARIN document processing
takes so long, including the mail list server.


If you are talking about actually editing the ARIN web site.

One thing I would add would be the minutes of the
meetings that lead up to ARIN. Also, the budgets
that were prepared. I think both of these are mentioned
in the Internet Monthly Reports prepared as part of the
NSF contracts.

Jim Fleming
Unir Corporation

JimFleming at
JimFleming at unety.s0.g0 (EDNS/IPv8)