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On Thursday, February 27, 1997 1:28 PM, Justin W. Newton[SMTP:justin at] wrote:
@ At 12:13 PM 4/26/97 -0400, Rob Marlowe wrote:
@ >>I find it inconsistent that people send me private comments
@ >>about how the public ARIN discussion should operate and
@ >>they do not make those comments in public when they
@ >>obviously would help move the discussion forward.
@ >
@ >Probably because anyone who disagrees with what is being proposed is
@ >immediately flamed.
@ I sent very extensive comments about the flaws that I saw in the original
@ ARIN proposal, and while people disagreed with me, I don't believe that I
@ was ever flamed (or if I was I ignored it as I tend to ignore low content
@ posts in general).  /I/ haven't seen any high content postings (with high
@ content being a personal opinion) ignored by the people who are drafting
@ the proposal.  The idea here is to make a good proposal, if you have gone
@ out and informed yourself of the issues involved (which is a pretty
@ extensive reading list), and believe that you have a contribution to make,
@ why would you CARE if someone flamed you?  If you haven't botheredd reading
@ everything and post to the list because you are right and you know it
@ goddamnit, well then you deserve to be flamed, and preferably hung from the
@ nearest tree.
@ Justin Newton				
@ Network Architect					
@ Erol's Internet Services
@ ISP/C Director at Large

I agree with almost everything Justin said....except the part about the "tree"...

Also, I think the list participants need to steer the
discussions here. If the consensus is to ONLY discuss
the ARIN proposal on the ARIN web site (
then that may be a more limited scope than people assume.

Since only certain people control the web site, it is hard
to make contributions other than minor corrections. There
are several web sites out which now allow the particpants
to collaborate on the content. The wiki-web comes to mind.
If the people shaping ARIN want people to participate they
could try that approach.

Others have told me that the NSF has informed them that
they do not intend to support ARIN. I have a letter stating
that the NSF has not taken a position on ARIN. It would
be good if the ARIN founders would clarify those views.
That is related to the content of the web site.

Jim Fleming
Unir Corporation

JimFleming at
JimFleming at unety.s0.g0 (EDNS/IPv8)