[dbwg] whois referral to RIPE

Cathy Murphy cathym at arin.net
Mon Mar 1 22:04:19 EST 2004


Hello William,

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, william(at)elan.net wrote:

> The better question is why did ARIN stop showing
>  ReferralServer: whois://whois.ripe.net:43/

Unless I misunderstood John, I think that is the point he was
making. As I indicated in my response to him, the referrals stopped
showing because they were inadvertantly deleted. They will be
available again shortly.

Regards,

Cathy Murphy
ARIN

> As I have already noted many times ReferralServer should be field used for
> standard reference to external whois services (whois, rwhois, future crisp)
> so that when software being used supports such protocol and such reference,
> it can follow the referral  And comments should be used as guide for users
> that do not have this software and that will most likely see the information
> from the webbrowser - and in that case ARIN putting reference in comments
> to http://www.ripe.net/whois is quite appropriate.
>
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, WP (John) wrote:
>
> > Dear ARIN / dbwg,
> >
> > ARIN has recently altered the way it refers queries to
> > RIPE, and has ceased putting "whois.ripe.net" in a
> > comment when queried for a RIPE IP number. ARIN now
> > gives ONLY the URL http://www.ripe.net/whois (in a
> > comment). Why has the pointer to the port 43 whois
> > been removed?
> >
> > For APNIC, ARIN's comment contains:
> >
> >  Comment:    For details, refer to the APNIC Whois
> > Database via
> >  Comment:    WHOIS.APNIC.NET or
> > http://www.apnic.net/apnic-bin/whois2.pl
> >
> > For LACNIC:
> >
> >  Comment: Please see http://www.lacnic.net/ for
> > further details,
> >  Comment: or check the WHOIS server located at
> > whois.lacnic.net
> >
> > For RIPE:
> >
> >  Comment: These addresses have been further assigned
> > to users in
> >  Comment: the RIPE NCC region. Contact information can
> > be found
> >  Comment: in the RIPE database at
> > http://www.ripe.net/whois
> >
> > My question is then, why does ARIN now behave
> > differently for RIPE ?
> > Why is there no longer any mention of whois.ripe.net ?
> >
> > Note further that CRSNic.net has a field in their
> > output that looks
> > like:
> >    Whois Server: whois.[someserver].com
> > which a program can detect, and direct itself to. Why
> > don't the RIRs
> > do the same?
> >
> > I would suggest that ARIN should provide an
> > easy-to-detect "Whois Server" field, or at the very
> > least, a consistent reference to to the appropriate
> > RIR's whois, including RIPE in its "Comment" fields.
> >
> > thank you,
> >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > John Bro <whoisproxy at yahoo.com>
> > http://wp-whois-proxy.sourceforge.net/
> >
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