From mjs at usinternet.com Wed May 1 13:40:41 2002 From: mjs at usinternet.com (Michael Steeber) Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:40:41 -0500 Subject: Beta Testing Message-ID: <003e01c1f137$50b7c280$c800010a@usinternet.com> I work for US Internet Corp. and I would be interested in becoming a beta tester. Please send me any information you have regarding this. Thanks Michael Steeber US Internet Corp. From DOHalloran at sanjuan.edu Thu May 2 18:24:31 2002 From: DOHalloran at sanjuan.edu (Dan OHalloran) Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 15:24:31 -0700 Subject: Mods Message-ID: <7F2CF25C2D3ED3119F9900902771C7B6057ED4A9@chip.sanjuan.edu> I need to make a name server modification. Question1: Do you want me to use the new Net-Mod template? Question2: Do I send this to hostmaster at arin.net ? Thanks, Dan O'Halloran Network Administration San Juan Unified School District From richardj at arin.net Fri May 3 03:47:16 2002 From: richardj at arin.net (Richard Jimmerson) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 03:47:16 -0400 Subject: Mods In-Reply-To: <7F2CF25C2D3ED3119F9900902771C7B6057ED4A9@chip.sanjuan.edu> Message-ID: <000001c1f276$bfc1b3d0$ecfc95c0@cobalt> Hello Dan, > I need to make a name server modification. > > Question1: Do you want me to use the new Net-Mod template? The new templates will not be used until after ARIN's database conversion. More information about the conversion is available at: http://www.arin.net/template_conversion/index.html Today, modifications are made using the modification template. This template is available at: http://www.arin.net/registration/ipv4/index.html > Question2: Do I send this to hostmaster at arin.net ? Yes. Best Regards, Richard Jimmerson Director of Operations American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) > -----Original Message----- > From: dbwg-request at arin.net [mailto:dbwg-request at arin.net] On > Behalf Of Dan OHalloran > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 6:25 PM > To: 'dbwg at arin.net' > Subject: Mods > > > I need to make a name server modification. > > Question1: Do you want me to use the new Net-Mod template? > > Question2: Do I send this to hostmaster at arin.net ? > > Thanks, > Dan O'Halloran > Network Administration > San Juan Unified School District > From ginny at arin.net Mon May 6 11:26:18 2002 From: ginny at arin.net (ginny listman) Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 11:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Organization Reports now available Message-ID: During the April 2002 Public Policy Meeting, ARIN distributed "Organization Reports" for all members in attendance. These reports listed the detailed information by Org ID (maintainer) and was used in conjunction with the "Getting a Jump Start on Your Org ID" presentation, located at: http://www.arin.net/library/training/Jumpstart.html ARIN will now provide these reports to all members and non-members that currently have a maintainer. These reports will contain all data as of April 30, 2002. Depending on the size of the reports, they will be either e-mailed, placed on our ftp site for download, or burned to a CD and sent via postal mail. If you wish to receive a report, send me a list of your maintainers. After verifying that you are authorized to receive these reports, you will be notified. Ginny Listman Director of Engineering ARIN From gcamps at exodus.net Wed May 15 13:19:10 2002 From: gcamps at exodus.net (geoffrey camps) Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:19:10 -0700 Subject: new template question Message-ID: I need a quick sanity check regarding the new templates that are replacing the SWIP template. I am working on converting our current SWIP script to reflect the new template design. Previously, the SWIP template could be used to create, modify, or delete an assignment or allocation. However, the new templates have specific purposes and I want to be sure that I have them correct: Reassign-Simple: New, Modify, Delete Net-Mod: Modify, Delete Reassign-Detailed: New Reallocate: New Any comments or clarification would be appreciated. Geoffrey Camps Network Engineer Exodus, a Cable and Wireless Service Delivering the Internet promise www.exodus.net gcamps at exodus.net From ginny at arin.net Wed May 15 13:48:12 2002 From: ginny at arin.net (ginny listman) Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 13:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: new template question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Geoffrey, You are correct. As a beta tester, I'll be sure to let you know when and where you can send your test templates. Ginny Listman Director of Engineering ARIN On Wed, 15 May 2002, geoffrey camps wrote: > I need a quick sanity check regarding the new templates that are replacing > the SWIP template. I am working on converting our current SWIP script to > reflect the new template design. Previously, the SWIP template could be > used to create, modify, or delete an assignment or allocation. However, the > new templates have specific purposes and I want to be sure that I have them > correct: > > Reassign-Simple: New, Modify, Delete > Net-Mod: Modify, Delete > Reassign-Detailed: New > Reallocate: New > > Any comments or clarification would be appreciated. > > > Geoffrey Camps > Network Engineer > Exodus, a Cable and Wireless Service > Delivering the Internet promise > www.exodus.net > gcamps at exodus.net > From todd_caine at eli.net Wed May 15 13:54:24 2002 From: todd_caine at eli.net (Todd Caine) Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:54:24 -0700 Subject: new template question References: Message-ID: <3CE2A0CF.F8FD59E4@eli.net> Is it also true that Reassign-Simple and Reassign-Detailed are only to be used for End-User "assignments" and the Reallocate template is only to be used for allocations to ISP that will be reassigning the address space to their customers? ginny listman wrote: > Geoffrey, > > You are correct. As a beta tester, I'll be sure to let you know when and > where you can send your test templates. > > Ginny Listman > Director of Engineering > ARIN > > On Wed, 15 May 2002, geoffrey camps wrote: > > > I need a quick sanity check regarding the new templates that are replacing > > the SWIP template. I am working on converting our current SWIP script to > > reflect the new template design. Previously, the SWIP template could be > > used to create, modify, or delete an assignment or allocation. However, the > > new templates have specific purposes and I want to be sure that I have them > > correct: > > > > Reassign-Simple: New, Modify, Delete > > Net-Mod: Modify, Delete > > Reassign-Detailed: New > > Reallocate: New > > > > Any comments or clarification would be appreciated. > > > > > > Geoffrey Camps > > Network Engineer > > Exodus, a Cable and Wireless Service > > Delivering the Internet promise > > www.exodus.net > > gcamps at exodus.net > > -- Todd Caine Software Engineer Electric Lightwave, Inc. tcaine at eli.net From ginny at arin.net Wed May 15 14:06:37 2002 From: ginny at arin.net (ginny listman) Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: new template question In-Reply-To: <3CE2A0CF.F8FD59E4@eli.net> Message-ID: Yes. In the current SWIP template the '(A)allocate (S)assign:' field has cause problems, mostly because assign and allocate both begin with 'A'. For clarity, we have created separate templates. Ginny On Wed, 15 May 2002, Todd Caine wrote: > > Is it also true that Reassign-Simple and Reassign-Detailed are only to be used for > End-User "assignments" and the Reallocate template is only to be used for > allocations to ISP that will be reassigning the address space to their customers? > > ginny listman wrote: > > > Geoffrey, > > > > You are correct. As a beta tester, I'll be sure to let you know when and > > where you can send your test templates. > > > > Ginny Listman > > Director of Engineering > > ARIN > > > > On Wed, 15 May 2002, geoffrey camps wrote: > > > > > I need a quick sanity check regarding the new templates that are replacing > > > the SWIP template. I am working on converting our current SWIP script to > > > reflect the new template design. Previously, the SWIP template could be > > > used to create, modify, or delete an assignment or allocation. However, the > > > new templates have specific purposes and I want to be sure that I have them > > > correct: > > > > > > Reassign-Simple: New, Modify, Delete > > > Net-Mod: Modify, Delete > > > Reassign-Detailed: New > > > Reallocate: New > > > > > > Any comments or clarification would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > Geoffrey Camps > > > Network Engineer > > > Exodus, a Cable and Wireless Service > > > Delivering the Internet promise > > > www.exodus.net > > > gcamps at exodus.net > > > > > -- > Todd Caine > Software Engineer > Electric Lightwave, Inc. > tcaine at eli.net > > From gcamps at exodus.net Wed May 15 15:00:23 2002 From: gcamps at exodus.net (geoffrey camps) Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 12:00:23 -0700 Subject: new template question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ok, so can Reassign-Simple be used to Modify/Delete an 'allocation', or do we have to use Net-Mod? -gc -----Original Message----- From: dbwg-request at arin.net [mailto:dbwg-request at arin.net]On Behalf Of ginny listman Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:07 AM To: Todd Caine Cc: dbwg at arin.net Subject: Re: new template question Yes. In the current SWIP template the '(A)allocate (S)assign:' field has cause problems, mostly because assign and allocate both begin with 'A'. For clarity, we have created separate templates. Ginny On Wed, 15 May 2002, Todd Caine wrote: > > Is it also true that Reassign-Simple and Reassign-Detailed are only to be used for > End-User "assignments" and the Reallocate template is only to be used for > allocations to ISP that will be reassigning the address space to their customers? > > ginny listman wrote: > > > Geoffrey, > > > > You are correct. As a beta tester, I'll be sure to let you know when and > > where you can send your test templates. > > > > Ginny Listman > > Director of Engineering > > ARIN > > > > On Wed, 15 May 2002, geoffrey camps wrote: > > > > > I need a quick sanity check regarding the new templates that are replacing > > > the SWIP template. I am working on converting our current SWIP script to > > > reflect the new template design. Previously, the SWIP template could be > > > used to create, modify, or delete an assignment or allocation. However, the > > > new templates have specific purposes and I want to be sure that I have them > > > correct: > > > > > > Reassign-Simple: New, Modify, Delete > > > Net-Mod: Modify, Delete > > > Reassign-Detailed: New > > > Reallocate: New > > > > > > Any comments or clarification would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > Geoffrey Camps > > > Network Engineer > > > Exodus, a Cable and Wireless Service > > > Delivering the Internet promise > > > www.exodus.net > > > gcamps at exodus.net > > > > > -- > Todd Caine > Software Engineer > Electric Lightwave, Inc. > tcaine at eli.net > > From ginny at arin.net Wed May 15 15:52:23 2002 From: ginny at arin.net (ginny listman) Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: new template question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You must use the Net-Mod to modify/remove an allocation or a reassigment that has POCs and/or inaddrs (reassign detail). Ginny On Wed, 15 May 2002, geoffrey camps wrote: > Ok, so can Reassign-Simple be used to Modify/Delete an 'allocation', or do > we have to use Net-Mod? > > -gc > > -----Original Message----- > From: dbwg-request at arin.net [mailto:dbwg-request at arin.net]On Behalf Of > ginny listman > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:07 AM > To: Todd Caine > Cc: dbwg at arin.net > Subject: Re: new template question > > > Yes. In the current SWIP template the '(A)allocate (S)assign:' field has > cause problems, mostly because assign and allocate both begin with 'A'. > For clarity, we have created separate templates. > > Ginny > > On Wed, 15 May 2002, Todd Caine wrote: > > > > > Is it also true that Reassign-Simple and Reassign-Detailed are only to be > used for > > End-User "assignments" and the Reallocate template is only to be used for > > allocations to ISP that will be reassigning the address space to their > customers? > > > > ginny listman wrote: > > > > > Geoffrey, > > > > > > You are correct. As a beta tester, I'll be sure to let you know when and > > > where you can send your test templates. > > > > > > Ginny Listman > > > Director of Engineering > > > ARIN > > > > > > On Wed, 15 May 2002, geoffrey camps wrote: > > > > > > > I need a quick sanity check regarding the new templates that are > replacing > > > > the SWIP template. I am working on converting our current SWIP script > to > > > > reflect the new template design. Previously, the SWIP template could > be > > > > used to create, modify, or delete an assignment or allocation. > However, the > > > > new templates have specific purposes and I want to be sure that I have > them > > > > correct: > > > > > > > > Reassign-Simple: New, Modify, Delete > > > > Net-Mod: Modify, Delete > > > > Reassign-Detailed: New > > > > Reallocate: New > > > > > > > > Any comments or clarification would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Geoffrey Camps > > > > Network Engineer > > > > Exodus, a Cable and Wireless Service > > > > Delivering the Internet promise > > > > www.exodus.net > > > > gcamps at exodus.net > > > > > > > > -- > > Todd Caine > > Software Engineer > > Electric Lightwave, Inc. > > tcaine at eli.net > > > > > > From Jill.Kulpinski at exodus.net Fri May 17 18:35:20 2002 From: Jill.Kulpinski at exodus.net (Jill Kulpinski) Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:35:20 -0700 Subject: New templates (Org-detailed) and June change details Message-ID: Hello All, We are looking for some thoughts, information and guidance with regards to the ARIN database migration: When the Org - Detailed request is submitted when we will see changes to the database? Will it be processed as soon as it is received or some time in June after the official migration? Is there a date in June when then changes will all be processed together or will it be an ongoing change? What changes will take place on our Resources that will resolve to the main Org? Will everything automatically populate to resolve to the new Org and is there anything we need to do to our Resources prior to the fact or should we wait and check for errors after? Are current Maintainers = Resources? This is a semantics question. We are preparing to make several changes to our current Maintainers (Resources) with regards to Allocations associated with certain Maintainers that should be associated with others and restructuring our Netname naming conventions. Is this something we can do down the road or do we need to have this in place prior to the database migration? Basically, if you have a number of Maintainers that belong to the same organization and you want to create an Org at this time, what is the impact overall. With regards to POCs: What is going to be publicly available? I know that there were some discussions regarding this a couple weeks ago but I did not see much feedback. In order to best account for employee changes, is the admin. contact as an alias (among 3 people) going to be a big issue as it says ARIN prefers it is an individual. How much is the preference "required"? Can you also provide the ad-hoc e-mail address for any non-standard changes (i.e. such as Maintainer name modification on a large scale). Thanks very much and any feedback and assistance is appreciated. Jill Kulpinski and Team Exodus, a Cable & Wireless Service jill.kulpinski at exodus.net (408) 346 2563 Phone From ginny at arin.net Mon May 20 09:29:23 2002 From: ginny at arin.net (ginny listman) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New templates (Org-detailed) and June change details In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 17 May 2002, Jill Kulpinski wrote: > Hello All, > We are looking for some thoughts, information and guidance with regards > to the ARIN database migration: > When the Org - Detailed request is submitted when we will see changes to > the database? Will it be processed as soon as it is received or some > time in June after the official migration? Is there a date in June when > then changes will all be processed together or will it be an ongoing > change? The Org templates will not be processed until day of conversion. With the introduction of the Org record and the various POCs, we are unable to fit it into our current database schema. However, any Org templates that are received in the Jumpstart account will be reviewed and run through our test database to make sure they will run without error on the day of conversion. > What changes will take place on our Resources that will resolve to the > main Org? Will everything automatically populate to resolve to the new > Org and is there anything we need to do to our Resources prior to the > fact or should we wait and check for errors after? Are current > Maintainers = Resources? This is a semantics question. The only change to resources is that if a maintainer ID doesn't exist, an Org ID will be generated. You do not have to make any changes to your resources prior to conversion. However, it will make for a cleaner conversion if all postal addresses and Org names associated with a single maintainer match exactly. Maintainers do not equal resources. Many people have a single maintainer that has multiple allocations (resources). Others have multiple maintainers that have only one or two allocations (resources). Maintainers = Orgs. > We are preparing to make several changes to our current Maintainers > (Resources) with regards to Allocations associated with certain > Maintainers that should be associated with others and restructuring our > Netname naming conventions. Is this something we can do down the road > or do we need to have this in place prior to the database migration? > Basically, if you have a number of Maintainers that belong to the same > organization and you want to create an Org at this time, what is the > impact overall. Since you have multiple maintainers, you will have multiple orgs. If you would like to conslidate some of the maintainers, I would recommend that you do it prior to conversion. Regarding changing the netnames of all the resources, it may be easier to do this after conversion with the new Net Name Change template. Since maintainers = orgs, from what you are describing, it sounds like you would like a top level org that would be the authority over all other orgs (existing maintainers). We will eventually have this capability, but not at the first release. > With regards to POCs: What is going to be publicly available? I know > that there were some discussions regarding this a couple weeks ago but I > did not see much feedback. In order to best account for employee > changes, is the admin. contact as an alias (among 3 people) going to be > a big issue as it says ARIN prefers it is an individual. How much is > the preference "required"? All POC will be publicly available in some fashion. When querying a resource record the administrative contact will not be displayed. Only technical, abuse and NOC will be displayed. When querying the Org record, the administrative contact will be available. If the adminstrative function is a shared role, my recommendation would be to register an individual with two email addresses, one personal and one role account. This would satisfy your needs of having multiple people having admin privileges and ARIN's needs of having an individual as a contact. > Can you also provide the ad-hoc e-mail address for any non-standard > changes (i.e. such as Maintainer name modification on a large scale). The jumpstart at arin.net role account will be able to handles these requests. > Thanks very much and any feedback and assistance is appreciated. > > Jill Kulpinski and Team > Exodus, a Cable & Wireless Service > jill.kulpinski at exodus.net > (408) 346 2563 Phone I hope I've answered more questions that I've raised. Ginny Listman Director of Engineering ARIN From mwvn-aca at iafrica.com Tue May 21 02:10:37 2002 From: mwvn-aca at iafrica.com (Matthews Suping) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 08:10:37 +0200 Subject: New templates (Org-detailed) and June change details References: Message-ID: <001401c2008e$3ab6a6c0$1a10a8c0@user10> Hi I am an aspirant e-commerce and technology attorney residing in South Africa. Hopefully you might all know that South Africa is currently going through the drill of enacting its "e-Communications and Transactions Act". The process is currently at its public deliberations stage under the auspices of the Parliamentary Portfolio Committee for Communications. Included in the 14 Chapter Bill is the Chapter on "DOMAIN NAMES". In brief, Chapter 10 of the proposed Electronic Communications and Transactions Bill seeks to establish a Domain Name Authority within South Africa and give control of the .za domain to that Authority under the auspices/control of the Department of Communications. Kindly note that the .za domain has been under the current .za which had been founded by Mr. Mike Lawrie. 1. Would anyone explain the technical factors related to RFC1591, if any. 2. Are there any commonly agreed upon protocols or commonly agreed upon standards which should be adhered to? 3. Are there any redelegation procedures that have to be followed/adhered to, e.g. the provisions of RFC1591 or ICP-1? i.e. the governance processes which already exist, in particular for DNS. 4. What are the implications of not abiding by these standards? for connection to the Internet, then the Internet will not connect to them. 5. What would happen were the current .za domain administrator will not redelegate the administration of .za to anyone else, in this respect the State of the respective ccTLD? 6. Who determines the capability of a third party or a government in fulfilling the requirements in RFC1591 and IPC-1? Matthews Mangope Suping IT Law Manager Versfelds Nkosi Inc (011) 790 2300 082 447 1430 ******************************************************************* CAUTION: This email message and any attachments contain information that is CONFIDENTIAL and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this message or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email message in error, please notify sender immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Thank you. ******************************************************************* From brunner at nic-naa.net Tue May 21 06:30:42 2002 From: brunner at nic-naa.net (Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 06:30:42 -0400 Subject: New templates (Org-detailed) and June change details In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 21 May 2002 08:10:37 +0200." <001401c2008e$3ab6a6c0$1a10a8c0@user10> Message-ID: <200205211030.g4LAUgaa003827@nic-naa.net> > 5. What would happen were the current .za domain administrator will not > redelegate the administration of .za to anyone else, in this respect the > State of the respective ccTLD? Somewhere on the ICANN site there exists the documentation on redelegation of the .pn cctld. Have a look. Recently .jp has redelegated, and previously so did .cn. It might help if you spent some time on what Mike Lawrie could be doing better, since presumably there is a technical reason for embarking on a policy tour of ICANN -- if it [*.za] isn't broke, you may not want to fix it. ICANN ccTLD Resource Materials URL http://www.icann.org/cctlds/ ICANN ccTLD Constituency of the DNSO, mailling lists and Mail Archive URL http://mail.ccwhois.org/mailarchive/ I do hope there's a better list for this than dbwg. Suggestions anyone? I trust that you are in contact already with: aftld.org afnic.org afnog.org afrdns.org and that you attended the Accra meeting of ICANN and have met Dr. Nii Quanor. Cheers, Eric From mwvn-aca at iafrica.com Tue May 21 07:25:37 2002 From: mwvn-aca at iafrica.com (Matthews Suping) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 13:25:37 +0200 Subject: New templates (Org-detailed) and June change details References: <200205211030.g4LAUgaa003827@nic-naa.net> Message-ID: <006801c200ba$3b947fa0$1a10a8c0@user10> Eric There is still the question of the uniqueness of South Africa with regards to its thinking, which I myself am not to clear on. I shall do as you advised, and read the material available. It would however be interesting to see what happens in the eventuality of a dead lock between Mike Lawrie, the interim administartor i.e. Namespace.za and the Dept. of Communications. Regards Matthews From memsvcs at arin.net Wed May 22 15:19:33 2002 From: memsvcs at arin.net (Member Services) Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 15:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ARIN Database and Template Conversion Update Message-ID: ARIN's new database and templates will be released for beta testing on June 28, 2002. Beta testing will continue for five weeks, concluding on August 2, 2002. The new database and templates are scheduled to be released into production on August 9, 2002. ARIN has actively solicited beta testers from the community for several months. If you have not yet expressed your interest to become a beta tester and would like to do so, please send e-mail to jumpstart at arin.net. For more information about the new ARIN database and templates, visit the Database & Template Conversion Information Center at: http://www.arin.net/template_conversion/index.html Conversion tips are being added here weekly. Regards, Richard Jimmerson Director of Operations American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) From gcamps at exodus.net Wed May 22 15:57:19 2002 From: gcamps at exodus.net (geoffrey camps) Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 12:57:19 -0700 Subject: New whois database output Message-ID: Do you have a sample of a new whois database record (or basic format) that you could provide to us? We would like to start working on revamping our whois parser. Geoffrey Camps Network Engineer Exodus, a Cable and Wireless Service Delivering the Internet promise www.exodus.net gcamps at exodus.net From ginny at arin.net Wed May 22 16:28:50 2002 From: ginny at arin.net (ginny listman) Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New whois database output In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Refer to the WHOIS requirements document posted to this list: http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/dbwg/0232.html On June 10, we will open up the beta testing, i.e. we will be provide a server where you may test your port 43 queries. Ginny Listman Director of Engineering ARIN On Wed, 22 May 2002, geoffrey camps wrote: > Do you have a sample of a new whois database record (or basic format) that > you could provide to us? We would like to start working on revamping our > whois parser. > > > Geoffrey Camps > Network Engineer > Exodus, a Cable and Wireless Service > Delivering the Internet promise > www.exodus.net > gcamps at exodus.net > From ginny at arin.net Fri May 31 07:48:22 2002 From: ginny at arin.net (ginny listman) Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 07:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RWhois Timeline Message-ID: During ARIN's Public Policy Meeting, there was a request from the community to provide an RWhois Development Timeline. This has been posted and can be found at: http://www.arin.net/tools/rwhois.html Ginny Listman Director of Engineering ARIN