[consult] Call for Consultation: ARIN WHOIS Directory Services
michael.dillon at bt.com
michael.dillon at bt.com
Fri Jul 27 04:32:32 EDT 2007
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> > It strikes me that people are forgetting that we are > dealing with IP > > address ranges, not CIDR blocks. ARIN does not allocate > CIDR blocks, > > they allocate IP address ranges, especially to larger ISPs. > > Are you kidding me? ARIN allocates Internet Resources, which > we collectively refer to in CIDR notation, since the classful > schemes were left back in BGP v3. Referring to addresses in CIDR notation is not what I am talking about. Nor am I talking about VLSM in operations. Let's say that I can justify 45,000 addresses for my next ISP allocation. What will ARIN allocate me? If you said a /16, you would be wrong. In fact ARIN will allocate me a range of addresses such as 99.0.0.0-191.255.255. Of course, you can express this single allocated range as two CIDR blocks, 99.0.0.0/17 and 99.128.0.0/18 but the whois data will still show this as a single netrange. There is a difference between a range of IP addresses and a CIDR block. > Don't you mean .. 12.0.0.0-12.127.255.255 ? Another reason > some folks need it made easier to do the query than figure > out the ranges involved. Exactly. OVERLAP seems to be more useful than exact matching. > > Allow a LIMIT clause that limits the number of entries > returned, i.e > > LIMIT 10 would only return the 10 largest ranges. > > > > Allow a MINIMUM clause that also limits entries returned, > i.e. MINIMUM > > /19 would only return ranges equal to or larger than /19 > > Umm, wow is this overkill. As we have already discussed, the > 256 limit should be applied and adhered to. And what if I don't WANT 256 entries. What if I want to look for ranges only of a certain size? Or maybe I just want a screenful of the biggest ranges that overlap a search range. > Oh man. Web based portals make a much better look/feel/functionality > than a unix shell, And what about security? The issue is security of the communication channel between ARIN and the PA holders. --Michael Dillon
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