From louie at equinix.com Tue Apr 3 16:20:43 2001 From: louie at equinix.com (Louis Lee) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: members-only website - tix (Re: Request for CLEW Input) Message-ID: <200104032020.NAA08340@nemo.corp.equinix.com> Barry Skeenes wrote: > Member Services is discussing what kind of increased > benefits ARIN can offer its Members. One consideration > is the reinstatement of a Members-only website for > providing news, training and other items of interest > to the Members. > > What content would you like to see on this site? One of the items listed at the ARIN VII presentation for consideration is status display for open tickets. Why not go further and display the content of closed tickets as well as open ones? The display of tickets will help organizations that has a turnover in staff who interfaced with ARIN. I think this would help to reduce confusion over past and current IP or ASN requests. Organizations will be reminded of past commitments they have made in previous requests. Granted, there are issues with this. I would not be surprised if there are comments that ARIN would like to put in the tickets that are not appropriate for member viewing. If that is the case, then the ticket system must be modified to allow ARIN staff to make these comments in a private ARIN-only field. Of course, the next enhancement may be to allow members to update their tickets via this website. This feature, though, will probably require a substantial redesign of the website that I don't think is a good use of ARIN resources. Louie ----------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Lee louie at equinix.com Network Engineer office: 650/316-6162 Equinix, Inc. pager: 650/940-5435 http://www.equinix.com/ fax: 650/316-6903 From louie at equinix.com Tue Apr 3 16:30:00 2001 From: louie at equinix.com (Louis Lee) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:30:00 -0700 Subject: members-only website - tix (Re: Request for CLEW Input) Message-ID: <4FA6CECCC8A3D41186F700B0D0784FF45E0CC2@hq-exchange.corp.equinix.com> Barry Skeenes wrote: > Member Services is discussing what kind of increased > benefits ARIN can offer its Members. One consideration > is the reinstatement of a Members-only website for > providing news, training and other items of interest > to the Members. > > What content would you like to see on this site? One of the items listed at the ARIN VII presentation for consideration is a status display for open tickets. Why not go further and display the content of closed tickets as well as open ones? The display of tickets will help organizations that has a turnover in staff who interfaced with ARIN. I think this would help to reduce confusion over past and current IP or ASN requests. Organizations will be reminded of past commitments they have made in previous requests. Granted, there are issues with this. I would not be surprised if there are comments that ARIN would like to put in the tickets that are not appropriate for member viewing. If that is the case, then the ticket system must be modified to allow ARIN staff to make these comments in a private ARIN-only field. It would also mean that the content of tickets previous to the availability of such a field should not be displayed. Of course, the next enhancement may be to allow members to update their tickets via this website. This feature, though, will probably require a substantial redesign of the website that I don't think is a good use of ARIN resources. Louie ----------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Lee louie at equinix.com Network Engineer office: 650/316-6162 Equinix, Inc. pager: 650/940-5435 http://www.equinix.com/ fax: 650/316-6903 From billd at cait.wustl.edu Wed Apr 18 11:14:20 2001 From: billd at cait.wustl.edu (Bill Darte) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:14:20 -0500 Subject: Supporting ISPs with WebHosting Policy Message-ID: Stephen, This is definately a Community Learning and Education Workgroup (CLEW) initiative and I am happy to have you contribute a draft document or outline of such a document to the CLEW mail list. I and others on that list will respond and perhaps we can knock out a substantive document in the near future... Thanks again and I look forward to your draft. Bill Darte AC and CLEW Chair > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Elliott [mailto:stephen at hnt.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:22 AM > To: Bill Darte > Cc: ARIN Public Policy (E-mail); ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail) > Subject: Re: Virtual WebHosting Policy Rewording > > > I am glad to see that there is some movement on this. I > agree with the > wording of this, but I would like to see something else; > guidelines for > proper implementation. One of the big problems with changes like this > is that in the past ARIN has kicked out the broad strokes of > the policy, > but individual ISP's then had to craft policies around the framework > provided by ARIN. This is ok in most circumstances, the ISP's for the > most part produce policies that are inline with ARIN and everyone is > happy. Yet some ISP's take tend to take it upon themselves to go the > extra mile and prohibit practices that are completely inline with the > ARIN policies, and then blame ARIN for this, saying it is not them, it > is ARIN. What I would suggest is a document that outlines what this > really means and how policies should be written at ISP's and others > responsible for distributing IP's. I will gladly volunteer > to help out > with a draft that can be read by the group and modify it based on > feedback. It is my hope that we as a group can come up with a policy > that is used industry wide and applied equally... well I can > hope can't > I! > -Stephen > > Bill Darte wrote: > > > > After consideration of suggested changes in the wording > associated with the > > the Virtual Web Hosting policy voiced on mail lists and the > ARIN meetings of > > April, the Advisory Council suggests the following slight > change in wording. > > > > Note that the AC considers this a policy to be recomemended > to the Board of > > Trustees after this 'final call' for input. It requires > ISPs to provide > > technical justification for IP address space allocations to > be used for > > IP-based web hosting and ARIN Registration Services staff > to collect this > > information. Over time this information will be aggregated > in a fashion > > which elimates specific customer/vendor references, and > used by ARIN and > > members to review this policy for change. > > > > Bill Darte > > Advisory Council > > > > > > ARIN subscription holders who provide virtual webhosting > services to their > > customers, and organizations that request new address space > from ARIN, are > > strongly encouraged to employ a name-based system of webhosting -- a > > current best practice method which enables multiple domains > to be hosted > > by a single IP address. In contrast, an IP-based system requires a > > distinct IP number for each domain, which, where not > required for the > > technical basis of services offered, is an inefficient use > of addresses. > > Widespread use of the name-based system will significantly > reduce the > > number of addresses needed for webhosting and will help to > conserve the > > limited supply of available address space. > > > > POLICY > > > > When an ISP submits a request for IP address space to be > used for IP-based > > webhosting, they will supply technical justification for > this practice. ARIN > > will collect this data for review of the policy in light of > operational > > experience. > > -- > Stephen Elliott Harrison & Troxell > Systems & Networking Manager 2 Faneuil Hall Marketplace > Systems & Networking Group Boston, Ma 02109 > (617)227-0494 Phone (617)720-3918 Fax >