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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Given John's fix below, the 2008-6 wording becomes....<BR>
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For a period of 3 years from policy implementation, resource holders<BR>
served by ARIN may designate a recipient for number resources they<BR>
release to ARIN.<BR>
<BR>
Number resources may only be received under RSA in the exact amount<BR>
which can be justified under ARIN resource-allocation policies.<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net on behalf of John Santos<BR>
Sent: Sat 1/3/2009 11:03 AM<BR>
To: Bill Darte<BR>
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net<BR>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2008-6 Combined Wording Alternative<BR>
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I have a minor nit with the original wording and Bill D.'s rewording<BR>
that Bill H.'s version clears up. There's a "they" with no<BR>
antecedent. Obviously it is intended to refer to the recipient,<BR>
but literally, it refers to the number resources themselves (or<BR>
possibly to ARIN.)<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Bill Darte <BillD@cait.wustl.edu> wrote:<BR>
><BR>
> Policy Proposal 2008-6 wording:<BR>
><BR>
> For a period of 3 years from policy implementation, ARIN-region number<BR>
> resources may be released, in whole or in part, to ARIN or another<BR>
> organization, by the authorized holder of the resource.<BR>
><BR>
> Number resources may only be received under RSA, with demonstrated need,<BR>
> in the exact amount which they are able to justify under ARIN<BR>
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----------------------------^^^^<BR>
<BR>
> resource-allocation policies.<BR>
><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Alternatively,<BR>
<BR>
"Number resources may only be received under RSA, with demonstrated<BR>
need, in the exact amount which can be justified under ARIN<BR>
resource-allocation policies."<BR>
<BR>
The antecedent for "which" is clearly the amount of number resources.<BR>
<BR>
> Bill Herrin's wording:<BR>
><BR>
> For a period of 3 years from policy implementation, resource holders<BR>
> served by ARIN may designate a recipient for number resources they<BR>
> release to ARIN. ARIN will honor said designation provided the<BR>
> recipient meets all other policy criteria for registering those<BR>
> resources.<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
<BR>
Someone else asked if this could result in fragmentation because<BR>
the lack of the phrase "the exact amount" from the original.<BR>
But isn't this covered by "all other policy criteria"? Which<BR>
phrase also covers the dropped mention of the RSA...<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> Seems to me that Bill Herrin's version is clearer, but changes the<BR>
> proposal by<BR>
> stating the transfer of resources must involve ARIN as a transfer<BR>
> intermediary.<BR>
><BR>
> 2008-6 says: "..may be released...to ARIN or another organization...."<BR>
><BR>
> Bill says: "..may designate a recipient for numbers they release to<BR>
> ARIN..."<BR>
><BR>
> Is this a semantic difference???...where in practice, the transfer is<BR>
> really 'on paper' and ARIN is going to record the transfer in either case?<BR>
<BR>
Since only ARIN can judge whether the recipient meets ARIN's policy<BR>
criteria, and the recipient has to sign an RSA, I think ARIN has to<BR>
be involved even in a direct transfer from holder to recipient using<BR>
the original wording, so I don't think the wording makes any<BR>
difference. But IANAL :-)<BR>
<BR>
><BR>
> And, of course, Scott has already highlighted the lack of 2008-6's second<BR>
> paragraph in Bill's alternative. Could the second paragraph simply be<BR>
> added while eliminating the last sentence of Bill's...as that would be<BR>
> redundant....<BR>
><BR>
> And, the clause .. "with demonstrated need" ...can be removed because it is<BR>
> implicit in the .."able to justify"... clause...<BR>
><BR>
> This would yield...<BR>
><BR>
> For a period of 3 years from policy implementation, resource holders<BR>
> served by ARIN may designate a recipient for number resources they<BR>
> release to ARIN.<BR>
><BR>
> Number resources may only be received under RSA in the exact amount<BR>
> which they are able to justify under ARIN resource-allocation policies.<BR>
<BR>
--------^^^^<BR>
<BR>
This reintroduces the "they"...<BR>
<BR>
"Recipients may receive number resources only under RSA..." would fix it<BR>
here too.<BR>
<BR>
Alternatively,<BR>
<BR>
"Number resources may only be received under RSA in the exact amount<BR>
which can be justified under ARIN resource-allocation policies."<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
--<BR>
John Santos<BR>
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.<BR>
781-861-0670 ext 539<BR>
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