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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Of course...everything you say I absolutely agree with.<BR>
But, my sell proposition is not exclusively to the consumer of transport, but to management of the ISP's. It's a way to seem less impotent in the face of an investment that must be done. It's a way for the company to spin the investment into a value proposition that seems to have a revenue stream associated with it...and to differentiate themselves to the consumer.<BR>
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From: cja@daydream.com [<A HREF="mailto:packetgrrl@gmail.com">mailto:packetgrrl@gmail.com</A>]<BR>
Sent: Sat 1/3/2009 8:40 AM<BR>
To: Bill Darte<BR>
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net<BR>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-6: Emergency TransferPolicyforIPv4 Addresses - Last Call<BR>
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I guess Bill but again I argue that customers don't care about IPv6. They<BR>
want ISPs to continue to build the highway and provide a service that gets<BR>
them to where they want to go. If ISPs run out of address space, well to a<BR>
customer that's just poor planning and they'll go somewhere else. I don't<BR>
think ISPs have to sell IPv6 to customers. Customers will take IPv6 if it<BR>
gets them where they want to go. I still argue that the fact that their<BR>
highway is IPv6 should be transparent to the customer. The ISP sells a<BR>
service and it may or may not include IPv6. The customer wants to<BR>
buy/sell/surf/etc.... The lower level protocols should be transparent to<BR>
them. No one sells OSPF, IS-IS, or BGP to a customer either. The<BR>
customers just don't care. The only thing I can see a customer may care<BR>
about IPv6 is being able to get a large block of address space but again<BR>
that's part of a service.<BR>
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----Cathy<BR>
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On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Bill Darte <BillD@cait.wustl.edu> wrote:<BR>
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> .... cja@daydream.com...wrote...<BR>
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> I guess I am still waiting for someone to come up with the killer<BR>
> application for IPv6. Or a marketing scheme... get this new<BR>
> service/speed/whatever if you sign up for IPv6. Of course you have to have<BR>
> IPv6 deployed to sell it as part of a service.<BR>
> *************<BR>
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> Seems to me the sell is... the future comes with IPv6...we(as an ISP) offer<BR>
> that service now.. if you want to be part of the future, come with us....<BR>
> (then a little FUD about what happens if you don't get on board) ;-)<BR>
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> bd<BR>
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