[arin-ppml] Feedback on ARIN 53 question on micro-allocations for IXPs

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Fri Apr 19 01:31:49 EDT 2024


By doing this it creates a short path to some specific type of Internet 
companies over the others to have access to scarce resources via someone 
else's right (the IX) to request those addresses for the minimum 
necessary to setup an IX, not to 'give a hand' to third parties. It 
would start to distort the purpose of the pool.

Content providers members are members like any other connected to that 
IX. Why make them special to use these resources if other members (e.g: 
Broadband Internet Service Providers) connected to that same IX cannot 
have the same privilege ?
They and any other IX member, regardless of their business, can get 
their own allocations with their own resources.

Fernando

On 19/04/2024 02:13, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I think that if it’s a cache that is serving the IX (i.e. the IX 
> member networks) over the IX peering VLAN, that’s perfectly valid.
>
> Owen
>
>
>> On Apr 18, 2024, at 20:35, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 18/04/2024 21:34, Matt Peterson wrote:
>>> <clip>
>>>
>>> If the policy needs revision /(John's comments did not provide 
>>> enough of a background story - it's unclear if this a yet another 
>>> IPv4 land grab approach, and/or IXP's evolving into hosting content 
>>> caches, and/or the historical industry acceptable usage that Ryan 
>>> shares), /maybe consider micro-allocations for IXP usage as 
>>> unannounced prefixes and for routed prefixes, an IXP applies under 
>>> NRPM 4.3 /(end user assignments).
>>> /
>>
>> I have a similar conversation recently with someone willing to use 
>> IXP allocations to assign to content caches and on this point I think 
>> that IXP pool should not be for that. Even knowing the positive 
>> impact a hosted content directly connected to a IXP makes it is their 
>> business to being their own IP address not the IXP and to be fair if 
>> you think of any CDN service they all have total means to do that. 
>> Therefore IXP allocations should be used for IXP own usage, so 
>> internal Infrastructure and to connect members and things should not 
>> be mixed up.
>>
>> Regards
>> Fernando
>>
>>>
>>> --Matt
>>>
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