[arin-ppml] Support for 2015-5 (Expand permitted out-of-region use of IPv4 space)

Jon Lewis jlewis at lewis.org
Tue Sep 15 20:56:26 EDT 2015


Are we to wait for a new RIR to incorporate to service the moon if someone 
wants to put an IPv4 network on the moon thats reachable from earth's IPv4 
Internet?  It's out of every RIR's region.  "Sorry, you can't take our IPs 
there."

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015, David Huberman wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Ignoring what 2015-5 says and how it's constructed, what is your opinion of the fundamental issue here?  Do you think network operators should be allowed to take ARIN-issued resources and use them anywhere in the world, regardless of topology?   In answering this, please understand that ARIN's current procedure is "NO".
>
> Thanks
> /david
>
> David R Huberman
> Principal, Global IP Addressing
> Microsoft Corporation
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of William Herrin
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 12:51 PM
>> To: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
>> Cc: ARIN PPML (ppml at arin.net) <ppml at arin.net>
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Support for 2015-5 (Expand permitted out-of-region
>> use of IPv4 space)
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>> There has been significant misunderstanding around this policy proposal.
>>
>> This proposal is a turkey, Owen. It doesn't do an adequate job of what any of
>> us want it to do, whether for or against out-of-region use.
>>
>> It should be abandoned. If further work on out-of-region use policy is
>> desired, consider pursuing a globally coordinated proposal that would
>> facilitate global use in a fair and expansive manner.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bill Herrin
>>
>>
>>
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