From narten at us.ibm.com Fri Feb 1 00:53:02 2013 From: narten at us.ibm.com (Thomas Narten) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 00:53:02 -0500 Subject: [arin-ppml] Weekly posting summary for ppml@arin.net Message-ID: <201302010553.r115r3hq018429@rotala.raleigh.ibm.com> Total of 3 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri Feb 1 00:53:02 EST 2013 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 66.67% | 2 | 65.45% | 11436 | info at arin.net 33.33% | 1 | 34.55% | 6038 | narten at us.ibm.com --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 3 |100.00% | 17474 | Total From info at arin.net Tue Feb 5 12:50:06 2013 From: info at arin.net (ARIN) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 12:50:06 -0500 Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN Public Policy Consultation @ NANOG 57 Today at 4:30 EST Message-ID: <5111464E.5020608@arin.net> If you aren't at NANOG, you can still register as a remote participant for ARIN's first Public Policy Consultation (PPC), which will be webcast this afternoon beginning at 4:30 PM EST. The PPC is an open public discussion of Internet number resource policy, and part of ARIN's new Policy Development Process (PDP). ARIN will be offering a webcast, live transcript, and Jabber chat options for remote participants. Registered remote participants may submit comments and questions to the discussions during the meeting. Register to attend in person or remotely today at: https://www.arin.net/app/meeting/registration/?action=show_form&meeting_id=46 Your Jabber ID must be registered by 4:00PM EST if you wish to participate. We do encourage you to register early so you have ample time to test the chat before the session opens. Current policy proposals up for discussion at this meeting are: >ARIN-2012-2: IPv6 Subsequent Allocations Utilization Requirement >ARIN-prop-182 Update Residential Customer Definition to not exclude wireless as Residential Service >ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement The PPC will also include an Open Microphone. Learn more at https://www.arin.net/ppc_nanog57/index.html. Registered NANOG 57 attendees do not need to register to participate in this session. ARIN welcomes members of the NANOG community who will not be in Orlando to register as remote participants. Regards, Communications and Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) From narten at us.ibm.com Fri Feb 8 00:53:02 2013 From: narten at us.ibm.com (Thomas Narten) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 00:53:02 -0500 Subject: [arin-ppml] Weekly posting summary for ppml@arin.net Message-ID: <201302080553.r185r2lZ010843@rotala.raleigh.ibm.com> Total of 2 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri Feb 8 00:53:02 EST 2013 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 50.00% | 1 | 51.45% | 6083 | narten at us.ibm.com 50.00% | 1 | 48.55% | 5739 | info at arin.net --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 2 |100.00% | 11822 | Total From bill at herrin.us Tue Feb 12 10:17:58 2013 From: bill at herrin.us (William Herrin) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:17:58 -0500 Subject: [arin-ppml] AS number for DoD? Message-ID: Hi, Question for all of you: how should an entity within the U.S. Department of Defense go about getting an AS number from ARIN? One of my customers is getting the run-around because their department is not a legally registered business name in the state of Virginia. He has multiple ISPs and he has a /24 from one of them but he needs an AS number. Thanks in advance, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com bill at herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 From Jack.Stevens at centurylink.com Tue Feb 12 10:36:55 2013 From: Jack.Stevens at centurylink.com (Stevens, Jack F) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:36:55 +0000 Subject: [arin-ppml] AS number for DoD? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill - It's been my experience that the DoD higher-ups don't want their public internet facing connections to be identified as the DoD. They should be able to use the same entity information they used to acquire their current IP space; if not, if they check with other DoD sites they should be able to emulate those. Jack Stevens Senior Engineer DNS - Web Hosting - Email Hosting Internet Security Services - AUP Networks - ARIN DMR CenturyLink Voice: 919-562-2715??|? Fax: 919-562-2516 Subpoena/legal request fax 913-254-5800 Email:Jack.Stevens at CenturyLink.com 14111 Capital Blvd?? Wake Forest NC?? 27587 Mailstop: NCWKFR0104 Voice??|??Data??|??Internet??|??Entertainment? -----Original Message----- From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of William Herrin Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:18 AM To: ARIN PPML Subject: [arin-ppml] AS number for DoD? Hi, Question for all of you: how should an entity within the U.S. Department of Defense go about getting an AS number from ARIN? One of my customers is getting the run-around because their department is not a legally registered business name in the state of Virginia. He has multiple ISPs and he has a /24 from one of them but he needs an AS number. Thanks in advance, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com bill at herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. From kkargel at polartel.com Tue Feb 12 10:40:47 2013 From: kkargel at polartel.com (Kevin Kargel) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:40:47 -0600 Subject: [arin-ppml] AS number for DoD? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8695009A81378E48879980039EEDAD280123DE0247@MAIL1.polartel.local> DoD has their own group for management of IP resources. A DoD entity should get their IP addresses and AS Numbers from Dod, not from ARIN. -----Original Message----- From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of William Herrin Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:18 AM To: ARIN PPML Subject: [arin-ppml] AS number for DoD? Hi, Question for all of you: how should an entity within the U.S. Department of Defense go about getting an AS number from ARIN? One of my customers is getting the run-around because their department is not a legally registered business name in the state of Virginia. He has multiple ISPs and he has a /24 from one of them but he needs an AS number. Thanks in advance, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com bill at herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... 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From narten at us.ibm.com Fri Feb 15 00:53:03 2013 From: narten at us.ibm.com (Thomas Narten) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:53:03 -0500 Subject: [arin-ppml] Weekly posting summary for ppml@arin.net Message-ID: <201302150553.r1F5r3q5005501@rotala.raleigh.ibm.com> Total of 4 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri Feb 15 00:53:02 EST 2013 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 25.00% | 1 | 30.12% | 7420 | jack.stevens at centurylink.com 25.00% | 1 | 24.67% | 6077 | narten at us.ibm.com 25.00% | 1 | 23.16% | 5706 | kkargel at polartel.com 25.00% | 1 | 22.06% | 5435 | bill at herrin.us --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 4 |100.00% | 24638 | Total From cgrundemann at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 16:06:27 2013 From: cgrundemann at gmail.com (Chris Grundemann) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:06:27 -0700 Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-182 Follow Up Message-ID: Hail PPML! Following the (first ever) Public Policy Consultation (PPC) at NANOG 57, David and I are still seeking a more concrete, technical problem statement for ARIN-prop-182. If you have such a problem statement, or would like to speak in favor of the current statement, please let us know! The problem statement presented at the PPC: "There is no difference between mobile and fixed aggregation and address assignment architectures in the real world of real networks. Consequently, ARIN policy should not assert there is a difference.? The presentations, transcripts, and videos of the PPC can be found here: https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ppc_nanog57/ Your feedback is extremely valuable as we decide how to move forward. Cheers, ~Chris -- @ChrisGrundemann http://chrisgrundemann.com From heather.skanks at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 16:10:32 2013 From: heather.skanks at gmail.com (Heather Schiller) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:10:32 -0800 Subject: [arin-ppml] Revised text for 2012-2 -- IPv6 Subsequent Allocations Utilization Requirement Message-ID: Updated text below.. This version incorporates staff suggested change for wording of 90% of serving site allocation and removes the modification to 2.14 (definition of a serving site) that required subnetting according to the plan justified to ARIN. The diff from the NRPM is the addition of the 3rd * under 6.5.3.b I also updated the rationale. Feedback please. --Heather Draft Policy ARIN-2012-2 IPv6 Subsequent Allocations Utilization Requirement Date: Policy statement: 2.14. Serving Site (IPv6) When applied to IPv6 policies, the term serving site shall mean a location where an ISP terminates or aggregates customer connections, including, but, not limited to Points of Presence (POPs), Datacenters, Central or Local switching office or regional or local combinations thereof. 6.5.3. Subsequent Allocations to LIRs a. Where possible ARIN will make subsequent allocations by expanding the existing allocation. b. An LIR qualifies for a subsequent allocation if they meet any of the following criteria: * Shows utilization of 75% or more of their total address space * Shows utilization of more than 90% of any serving site * Has allocated more than 90% of their total address space to serving sites, with the block size allocated to each serving site being justified based on the criteria specified in section 6.5.2 c. If ARIN can not expand one or more existing allocations, ARIN shall make a new allocation based on the initial allocation criteria above. The LIR is encouraged, but not required to renumber into the new allocation over time and return any allocations no longer in use. d. If an LIR has already reached a /12 or more, ARIN will allocate a single additional /12 rather than continue expanding nibble boundaries. Original Rationale: If you are executing to a long term plan, you should be able to continue to execute on your approved allocation and assignment plan regardless of the number of regions/groupings you originally planned for. We want to promote tie downs on nibbles and long term planning. Updated Rationale: Subnet expansion may occur rapidly and un-evenly in the early stages of IPv6 deployment. Providers may find that they have put all of their subnets/serving sites into service, and do not have enough space to add an additional serving site. They may have plenty of space available within subnets to make customer assignments, but can not turn up a new location (eg city, pop) Timetable for implementation: Immediately From narten at us.ibm.com Fri Feb 22 00:53:02 2013 From: narten at us.ibm.com (Thomas Narten) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:53:02 -0500 Subject: [arin-ppml] Weekly posting summary for ppml@arin.net Message-ID: <201302220553.r1M5r3D5006092@rotala.raleigh.ibm.com> Total of 5 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri Feb 22 00:53:02 EST 2013 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 60.00% | 3 | 60.42% | 20124 | narten at us.ibm.com 20.00% | 1 | 22.13% | 7372 | heather.skanks at gmail.com 20.00% | 1 | 17.44% | 5809 | cgrundemann at gmail.com --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 5 |100.00% | 33305 | Total From info at arin.net Wed Feb 27 12:02:25 2013 From: info at arin.net (ARIN) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:02:25 -0500 Subject: [arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - February 2013 Message-ID: <512E3C21.9070702@arin.net> In accordance with the ARIN Policy Development Process, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) held a meeting on 21 February 2013 and made decisions about proposals and draft policies. The AC remanded the following to the proposal originator: ARIN-prop-182 Update Residential Customer Definition to not exclude wireless as Residential Service The AC provided the following statement about prop-182: ?After numerous conversations with the policy originator and the community, the AC shepherds have been unable to ascertain a valid problem statement. The proposal asserts that mobile and fixed residential services should be treated the same from an Internet number resource policy perspective. However, this assertion is not supported with any discussion of how mobile residential services have the same technical issues that the current policy was crafted to mitigate or any examples of current problems in obtaining resource following the current policies by mobile residential services providers. Note: Previous deviations from the standard "80% rule" have all been narrowly scoped and backed by a detailed discussion of the technical issues that necessitated the exception. A clear problem statement is necessary to provide the basis for evaluation of the benefits verses the consequences of any proposed policy change. This proposal neither describes how the needs of mobile residential services providers are not meet by the current policy or how the technical issues involved are equivalent to the technical issues that justified the previous exceptions. Therefore, the AC feels that the best course of action is to remand this proposal to the author for their further consideration.? The AC is continuing to work on the following: ARIN-2012-2: IPv6 Subsequent Allocations Utilization Requirement ARIN-2013-1: Section 8.4 Transfer Enhancement Draft Policy and Proposal texts are available at: https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at: https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html Regards, Communications and Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)