[arin-ppml] FW: ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM Section 2 - Legacy Resources

[David Farmer]

On 6/5/12 23:28 , William Herrin wrote:
> On 6/5/12, David Farmer<farmer at umn.edu>  wrote:
>> A contract clarifying the relationship between the
>> resource holder and ARIN, neither changes the relationship between the
>> resource holder and the resource nor ARIN and the resource registration,
>> it only simply clarifies the relationship between ARIN and the resource
>> holder, that is it.
>
> Hi David,
>
> Have you read the LRSA?
>
> "14.TERM AND TERMINATION.
>
> (b) [...] ARIN shall have the right to immediately terminate this
> Agreement for cause upon ARIN’s written notice to Legacy Holder for:
> (i) Legacy Holder’s failure to pay fees pursuant to Section 5;
>
> (e) Effect of Termination. Except as described in Section 14(c) and
> 15(k), if this Legacy Agreement expires or is terminated, then (i)
> ARIN will immediately revoke the Included Number Resources"

You don't pay your bills?  Also, Read Section 5, it is immediately after 
after approximately 90 days of process.  Previous versions were much 
more, up to two years.

On the other side of that equation, there is the benefit of a clear 
modern contract defining your rights, as opposed to some theoretical 
rights that are unknown at best.  Which terms would you prefer to have 
the resources critical to a $3 billion a year enterprise covered under?

If you intend to use the resources the LRSA is pretty good.  My personal 
advice on the issue is, if the only proof you can produce for the 
existence of your legacy assignments comes from the ARIN Whois database, 
you might want to contractually obligate ARIN to keep it there.

I still content the contract clarifies the relationship between ARIN and 
the resource holder, and doesn't change the relationship between the 
resource holder and the resource or ARIN and the resource.