[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-137 Global Policy for post exhaustion IPv4 allocation mechanisms by the IANA

John Springer springer at inlandnet.com
Thu Mar 17 14:06:53 EDT 2011


Hi David,

Just to you, not the list:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, David Farmer wrote:

> On 3/13/11 15:08 CDT, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
>> No, I would like to take whatever measures necessary to make sure that
>> IANA never touches IPv4 space, ever again.
>> 
>> Jeff
>
> Too late, IANA still has some bits of IPv4.
>
> From the transcript of the APNIC meeting three weeks ago;
>
>> Leo Vegoda: We actually appear to have about a /20 in bits and pieces of 
>> /24, which I think would be the seed for any reclamation pool were such a 
>> policy to be passed.
>> 
>> Of course, if people don't want us to allocate those eight, I think it is, 
>> /24s, then we can probably just pass them out to staff and, you know, sort 
>> it out that way. In any case, we do have very small bits currently waiting 
>> for a policy. It's not really very much, so you probably don't want to go 
>> through a lot of effort just to get that /20. In any case, there is some 
>> space in /24s and no one is using it at the moment.
>
> Should we leave them in jail at IANA? Or, put together a simple policy that 
> allows them out of jail to be put to use?

I hope you won't be offended, but in the race to find the smallest 
possible item of V4 concern, this seems pretty close to the theoretical 
minimum.

I don't have a strong opinion about this proposal, but citing the 
existance of these addresses as rationale one way or the other seems 
immaterial.

I'd rather have IANA hang on to them.

John Springer

>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Matthew Petach<mpetach at netflight.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jeffrey Lyon
>>> <jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net>  wrote:
>>>> .. but they shouldn't be returned to IANA so we don't need a mechanism
>>>> for ensuring that anything happens when, in theory, the undesirable
>>>> occurs.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm still opposed.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards, Jeff
>>> 
>>> *heh*
>>> So, you'd rather any addresses that happen to end up back with
>>> IANA get stranded there in perpetuity?
>>> 
>>> *shrug*  I guess that's one more push for people to move to v6 instead. 
>>> ;-P
>>> 
>>> Matt
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>
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