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[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2011-1 - Inter-RIR Transfers - Shepherd's Inquiry

On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:33 PM, William Herrin wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>> Since the current proposals are
>>> no-ops unless APNIC changes their transfer policy in Busan, I'm ok
>>> waiting to discuss them at Philly as well.
>> 
>> First, the current proposals are not no-ops. They happen to exclude
>> APNIC unless APNIC happens to change their policy.
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I was privately reminded that 2011-1 is intended to be an ARIN-local
> policy rather than a global policy ratified by all five RIRs. It's
> intended to express the criteria under which we'll participate in
> address transfers, not set global policy.
> 
> With that in mind, I suggest some more concrete language:
> 
> "Where the Board of Trustees unanimously determines that another RIR
> implements needs-based addressing policies comparable to ARIN's, ARIN
> shall endeavor to establish bilateral and reciprocal agreements which
> permit registrants to transfer addresses between regions.
> 
> Both registrants involved in transfers under such agreements shall
> meet the local policy requirements of both registries. The transfer
> shall be revoked unless the recipient puts received resources to use
> for a networking purpose within 3 months of receipt. Transferred
> resources become part of the resource holdings of the recipient RIR
> unless otherwise agreed by both RIRs.
> 
> Such transfer agreements shall terminate immediately upon a plurality
> determination by the Board that the other RIR no longer implements a
> comparable, needs-based addressing policy."
> 
> 

I think the above is a fine policy and encourage you to submit it as a proposal.

I'm not sure it's within the bounds of modifying 2011-1.

> In the above, I tried to stay true to Bill's language while correcting
> the problems with vagueness about when ARIN will or won't transfer.
> Bill's original language was:
> 
> "Address resources may be transferred.... in or out of the ARIN region
> to those who demonstrate need and plan to deploy them for a networking
> purpose within 3 months. Such transfers will take place between RIRs
> who share compatible, needs-based policies on behalf of entities
> agreeing to the transfer and which otherwise meet both RIR's policies.
> Transferred resources will become part of the resource holdings of the
> recipient RIR unless otherwise agreed by both RIRs."
> 
> 
> Suggested additions:
> 
> "within 3 months of receipt and continues using it for said purpose
> for at least 1 year."
> 
> "ARIN registrants which have received IPv4 addresses from the ARIN
> free pool within the last 2 years are ineligible to offer addresses
> for transfer to another region. ARIN registrants which transfer
> addresses outregion are ineligible to receive additional IPv4
> addresses from the ARIN free pool."
> 
I would support both of these, as well. Especially the latter one.

> 
> Transfers should not be allowed to deplete the remaining free pool;
> we'll exhaust that soon enough all by ourselves.
> 
Agreed.

> Thoughts?
> 
See above. ;-)

Owen