ARIN-PPML Message

[arin-ppml] Update for pp149 Improved Transparency for Directed Transfers

On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:34 PM, David Farmer wrote:

> On 6/2/11 18:48 CDT, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, David Farmer<farmer at umn.edu>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 6/2/11 15:52 CDT, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 2, 2011, at 1:07 PM, David Farmer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Owen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to clarify something, the intent is to publish a
>>>>> list of resources (the numbers) that have been transferred and
>>>>> any resources disaggregated as part of transfers.  Similar to
>>>>> the list of micro allocations that have been made, see;
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.arin.net/knowledge/micro_allocations.html
>>>>> 
>>>> Yes, but, in this case, I think that dates are also vital data.
>>> 
>>> I'm not seeing why the date is vital, could you explain your
>>> reasoning?
>>> 
>> 
>> To prevent breaking smaller networks that have been online for years
>> by limiting prefix sizes overall it will be necessary to be able to
>> tell recent deaggregation apart from earlier segmentation.
> 
> I see how having the date for each transfer would let you differentiate between transfers on the list, earlier transfers verses later transfers.  But, how does the date of the transfer help you differentiate between disaggregation from transfers verses earlier segmentation?
> 

It's unclear where in time the breaking point will occur, so, it may
be some network operators want to allow smaller prefixes from
some earlier transfers. If we have the date, the network operators
can make the decision. If we don't, then they can't.

Owen