[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-133: No Volunteer Services on Behalf of Unaffiliated Address Blocks

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Dan Pinkard <dpinkard at> wrote:
>> As I read this, the goal is to defeat using the whois registration as a tool
>> to beat the heads of those who may consider signing the LRSA. I agree with
>> that notion, especially as it makes it clear that forcing people into policy
>> in a heavy-handed way can easily run-afoul of legalities and simple
>> good-will. However, as it has been pointed out, we don't really want to lose
>> that resource for the people who do pay. However unfair of those who don't
>> pay up a little, the larger disservice would be to remove that all together.
>> And what of the gray area for organizations who have some stuff under RSA
>> and some stuff that should be LRSA if anyone were motivated to do it?
>> It seems like taking away the baby's rattle is a good step, but not that
>> way. What other means are available to motivate organizations to bring
>> legacy space under the LRSA that don't cause other problems?
>> If we're loking
>> at the larger picture of parceling out unused or underutilized IPv4 space,
>> is there a way ARIN can ease those needs in trade? (Is there a desire to
>> help or harm that?)
> I think that there are a few (workable) issues. In order for law
> enforcement not to oppose, there needs to be "a" whois registry. The
> second is in-addr re delegation.
> I like Bensons proposal. I think it needs some refining, but count me
> on the tentative support side.
> Best,
> -M<
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You bring up a good point about law enforcement, but the lack of a
WHOIS entry does not make the assignee untraceable, it merely means
that ARIN is not providing it's services.

Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
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Black Lotus Communications - AS32421
First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions