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[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-131: Section 5.0 Legacy Addresses

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 15:05, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> I still don't understand why we would limit this to legacy resources.

+1

Marty - Can you shed some light onto why this is (and needs to be)
limited to legacy space? I don't see a need for the distinction but
could certainly be missing something.

~Chris


> Owen
>
> On Feb 9, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Heather Schiller wrote:
>
>> how about:
>>
>> ".... legacy resources returned to ARIN will be made available for
>> distribution in the ARIN region."
>>
>> --heather
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:10 PM, cja at daydream.com <packetgrrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Let's be clear this is not "ARIN speak".  This is RIR speak.    If you have
>>> a better alternative to distinguish between addresses that are given out to
>>> be further assigned to customers as opposed to blocks given that are
>>> intended not to be further delegated then feel free to make a suggestion.
>>> Most of us would love a workable alternative.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> ----Cathy
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:02 PM, cja at daydream.com <packetgrrl at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Do you think that this will suffice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Upon expiration of the hold period and in the absence of a Global
>>>>>> Policy or Globally Coordinated Policy directing otherwise, legacy
>>>>>> resources returned to ARIN will be made available for allocation."
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it should say "made available for allocation or assignment"
>>>>
>>>> Right. Allocation and assignment are loaded words in ARIN-speak. If
>>>> you specify the one but not the other in policy, you restrict the
>>>> usage of those addresses. You could also say something like "made
>>>> available for registration," without using either of the two loaded
>>>> words.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bill Herrin
>>>>
>>>> p.s. Yes, I'm sad to report there is in fact an ARIN-speak -- words
>>>> and phrases with special meanings overloaded on the plain English,
>>>> meanings that tend to obstruct outsiders' understanding both in the
>>>> debate and the policy documents. This is unfortunate since it harms
>>>> ARIN's accessibility to the public, but that's a crusade for another
>>>> day.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com  bill at herrin.us
>>>> 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
>>>> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
>>>
>>>
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