ARIN-PPML Message

[arin-ppml] Controlling the IPv6 address consumption rate

On 10/15/10 10:51 AM, Heather Schiller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:16 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>> We always listen to what the folks in the IETF have to say, but
>> sometimes they don't know what the eff they're talking about.

I'm not convinced that you do listen, or that if you do listen that you
agree. Disagreeing I see as preferable to not listening. It's pretty
easy to characterize the activities of 15-18 years ago as deluded or
misguided, it seems to be harder for us to accept that what was done was
as good as it could be under the circumstances and that we need to move
on changing what we have in minor ways rather than boiling the baby (who
is now a teenager in any event) in the bathwater.

We have 15 years of groundwork behind us, some of us have had ipv6
assignments, deployed networks and working host implementations for
close to a decade, this stuff doesn't change that easily even if the
vast bulk of the deployment exercise is still in front of us.

FWIW I am both a network operator and one of the v6ops WG chairs.

>  Maybe rather than just listening to what the folks in IETF have to
> say, operators should participate more, in order to develop solutions
> that are operationally feasible. 

Be reminded that as network operator's we don't all speak with one
voice. There's a reason that there's disagreement on this list for
example and you shouldn't expect anything less from any other community
of interest in which you would participate.

> Be a part of the solution.  Much
> like the ARIN community and policy development process, there is a
> mechanism to participate in the development of IETF standards.
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